[fastcarsfreedom]

Good defenisve play markbarbera--you're now at the point where you're anticipating the next move. Always played defense myself, so I respect that move.

That being said, I'm not going to brand you elitists. Since you are urbanists and have seen the light, you are simply better than the rest of us living our miserable existence. Interesting that you should latch onto obesity also--as it is apparently still socially acceptable to discriminate based on body mass index. I won't even approach the fact that HAMRetrofit also suggested fat people are stupid.

It would be really easy for me to throw my hands up and say that I'm finished with trying to contribute positively to this forum--and there are days (such as today) that I am sorely tempted to take the low road.