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Old Posted Jan 26, 2018, 3:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Acajack View Post
This is all true but I think we need to decide if as a society if we want the media to increasingly play the role of judge and jury.

The court system is far from perfect in spite of the fact that it is subject to extensive oversight measures that have teeth. No such oversight exists for the media, and even less for social media where a lot of the "rulings" about people are taking place.

I find a bit disturbing the dismissive answer everyone always gives these days which is "sure, he wasn't given a fair trial but everything pointed to him being guilty anyway, so it's no big deal..."

At this point of the whole phenomenon anyone can come out with allegations and the person involved's life and career are for all intents and purposes ruined.

The Patrick Brown case was "vetted" for sure but the Kent Hehr case most definitely was not. In the latter case anyone who follows politics knows he was on thin ice anyway, but I am not sure it would have made much of a difference in the current climate: he would have been out no matter what, just based on a series of tweets.

It did not get much coverage in North America but the case of Carl Sargeant in Wales is a troublesome one.

Word comes out that he groped someone. They won't give him or anyone else outside of a select inner circle (it seems) any details about the allegations. But he still gets sacked and his name gets dragged through the mud. Still no details communicated to him nor made public, and under considerable stress we assume, he commits suicide. Several months after his death it's still totally unclear what this was about, if it was founded or unfounded or worthy of a deeper investigation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sargeant

Now, I have no idea if he did or didn't grope someone. But surely this does show quite clearly the potential dangers of this trend gone wild.
I don't disagree with any of that, but keep in mind that many of the cases we're hearing about could never go to a court of law. If what is happening is about social change rather than justice then there will be casualties. It would be interesting to know whether the suicide in Wales had any impact on #metoo in the UK.
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