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Originally Posted by chris08876
Macy's wouldn't be touched, thats a given. That's history right there plus its a National Historic Landmark. But the trash along MSG, yes, those crummy low-rises/shacks with substandard stores.
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Yeah, Macy's wouldn't be touched, it's outside the proposed boundaries anyway. But they were supposedly exploring putting a residential tower on top of the current store.
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Originally Posted by JSsocal
2 penn needs to be imploded yesterday.
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It does, if only because it makes MSG look like a giant toilet. But there were plans afoot for a replacement early on in the Hudson Yards process. That needs to be dusted off again. Remove FAR caps.
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Originally Posted by CIA
No one is seizing any property. Just the opposite actually as government would be allowing more flexible to property owners to build what they want. No one right now is happy with the current situation.
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Right, if you look along 34th Street, it's mostly lowrise retail buildings. I know Vornado is big on retail, but the retail can (and would most likely) exist at the base of buildings with modern offices above. Of course, the critics will immediately come out and say you're building office space in east Manhattan, the Hudson Yards, and Downtown - why build it here? The answer is because you can, and should have long ago. It doesn't all have to get built at one time, let it be phased in. Lift the FAR caps, and let the market decide what can get built. The Hotel Penn still stands because Vornado is more comfortable letting the hotel at least pull in money for the time being. But if it had been a vacant site (like on the west side), I'm sure another tenant would have anchored by now. You don't get a better location for a large office tower in Manhattan, even as the surroundings are what they are.
Anyway, here's the simple but official wording of what is being called the
New York Pennsylvania Station Public Safety Improvements Act.
This is the part that should satisfy all parties concerned, though I don't know how much the City's own sluggish approvals process will allow for proper redevelopment of the area.
Remember, Vornado and Related had a plan a decade or so ago that would have moved MSG to the Farley building, opening up the Penn Station site for redevelopment of major office towers, in addition to other major towers being planned. That plan came to a halt when MSG backed out, so it's not surprising that Cuomo would want condemnation powers to backup talks with MSG. No one wants a repeat of that.
But the governor is right in that Penn Station in it's current form is not just unsightly, but unsafe. It is dangerously overcrowded during the rush hours, and there are not enough exits. We have been lucky up to this point, but do we really want to keep trying our luck?
I was outside of Penn Station last lear when people started running out, and this was from the upper level where there are more exits...
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