[Jdawgboy]

This whole debate really boils down to political ideology in the end. There are always going to be differences in opinions on that so we need to keep in mind when we discuss issues like these.

It all comes down to Democratic/Liberal ideology verses, Libertarian ideology. Both want a free society but the means to achieve that are different.

Libertarians want little to no government interference and in some cases no government period. Liberals believe government is needed to help achieve freedom of all.

You can agree or disagree all you want about city ordinances and laws and you can agree or disagree about how these ordinances and laws infringe on personal freedoms or help society better itself, but in the end it basically goes to how you feel government should be.

I am a Liberal Democrat as is most of the central core of Austin, and I believe the plastic bag ban is needed and important to better ourselves and our environment. You can disagree with me but that will not change my reasoning nor would I change your reasoning so we can go on and on and argue but what is the point. This thread in the end is pointless unless it is to argue ideology in city politics.