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Originally Posted by rousseau
We're not talking about Reagan. Or Bush the first. Or even, gawd help us, Harper. The disagreements on policy with people who voted for them were often constructive and mostly civil.
These are polarizing times, sure. But we're talking about Donald Trump. Donald...fucking...Trump. Your intellectually dishonest parlour game of equivalence, of "meh, left, right, Clinton, Trump, they're all the same" doesn't pass the barest scrutiny. Like, the Daily Show and The Rebel are both producers of misinformation?
Christ. Where do you come up with this stuff? Have you ever actually seen those two shows? There's an argument to be made that Jon Stewart and his ilk are merely preaching to the choir in the same way as the alt-right media cretins do, but the idea that there is equivalency in terms of accuracy and honesty is just ridiculous. It's objectively untrue.
You're just calling black white, and up down. It's a measure of the times we live in. No shame, no tentativeness, just bald-faced idiocy and lying about the most obvious of things.
Like suggesting that it's those of us on the centre and left who are demonizing the political opposition as "sub-human." That's a blatant falsehood that embodies so much that is "post-factual" about the alt-right.
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Politics does strange things to otherwise intelligent people.
When it comes to politics, you have one mode. Sensationalist rhetoric.
At the heart of my response is, it is patently absurd to say "This political opponent has zero appeal to other people and is obviously bad for humanity".
No where in this inflammatory response did you elicit any kind of self awareness for this absurd statement.
Trump has talked about a range of issues, from unfair trade deals, to systemic immigration problems, to corruption in Washington, to a re-imagining of a foreign policy that is a mess and has left many of the most troubled places in the world a mess.
It's important to note that, people do not support a candidate for his or her flaws. They support a candidate because they get the major stuff right.
If you are completely unaware of any possible policy position of Trump that could potentially appeal to a reasonable human being, I think it's fair enough to recognize that you have been living in an extreme political bubble echo chamber and have fallen far from the place you need to be to have a reasonable conversation about politics. And knowing that you are an otherwise intelligent person, it speaks volumes to the problems (and dangers) that the modern political environment has had.