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Old Posted Jun 14, 2007, 5:09 PM
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I like somewhat the idea of this parking plan. I think it will achieve the ulterior motive that the city has, which is, concentrating student living into the North Joaquin neighborhood (essentially the 3 blocks directly south of BYU campus) and concentrate owner-occupied families in the South Joaquin neighborhood.

Students (as we've already seen I-215 complain about ) hate parking fees, so theyll probably want to live closer to campus so they dont need additional parking passes.

Obviously, I think the city council will need adjust this plan and by no means do I think its perfect as it stands, but concentrating the students into this specific area between 5th north and 820 north will alleviate a lot of the conflict of mixing families w/ students and raise land values in the South Joaquin neighborhood which is right next to the CBD.,1249,665193164,00.html

Provo parking plan costly in first year

But program would turn profit 2nd year, memo says

By Tad Walch
Deseret Morning News
PROVO — A parking permit program that would extend eight blocks south of Brigham Young University could cost in excess of $350,000 in the first year, according to a memo provided by Provo city staff to the City Council Tuesday.
Signs alone could cost more than $130,000, reported Brent Wilde, assistant director of Provo's department of Community Development.
Adding parking meters along 800 North would add another $80,000 to $100,000 to the bill but would provide revenue for a program that might be unlike any other in the country and would turn a profit in the second year.
The signs would warn BYU students and others not to park without a permit in the area that stretches nine blocks from University Avenue on the west to 900 East and eight blocks from Center Street on the south to 800 North.
Those who own — and live in — homes and condos in the Joaquin neighborhood would get one free on-street parking permit and could purchase a second for $25, Wilde said.
Tenants renting homes, apartments or condos could purchase a single permit for $25. Tenant permits would likely be bumper stickers, so they would be hard to transfer to another person.
The initial costs would include striping parking stalls and printing permits, in addition to the ongoing cost of three enforcement officers and two vehicles.
The city would lose $115,000 the first year because of start-up costs but make a $148,000 profit the second year, according to the memo. Annual revenues would be $244,000 and expenses would be $96,000, according to the memo.
The program is designed to ease parking congestion on the streets south of campus by excluding BYU students who for years have commuted to school and parked for free in the neighborhood.
BYU provides free on-campus parking, but many students prefer to park south of campus because of the area's proximity to major classroom buildings rather than park north of campus and walk from lots at the Marriott Center or LaVell Edwards Stadium.
Many apartment complexes in the neighborhood have more tenants than on-site parking spaces, forcing tenants to park on the streets in large numbers.
"This is a really good starting place for the neighborhood and the council," said Kurt Peterson, the Joaquin neighborhood chairman who requested the parking permit district. "It's an improvement on what I and the neighborhood suggested. It's easier and better for the students. They can breathe a sigh of relief. When they stop and think about it, a $25 fee for a parking place in the Joaquin neighborhood is a bargain."
Many students are expected to balk. The city council is waiting to hold open houses on the program until September so students can provide input. Mayor Lewis Billings said the full 15-page memo and addendums should be posted soon at
City Council Chairman George Stewart said the council hopes to finalize a program by December and have it in place by June 2008, one year before the opening of Joaquin Village. The apartment complex will add housing for 950 BYU students in the heart of the neighborhood, at 500 North and 600 East.
Other cities have parking permit areas around major universities, but Provo's research hasn't found another city that issues permits for homeowners to park on city streets or that makes a distinction between homeowners and apartment tenants.
The program wouldn't reserve space directly in front of a permitholder's residence. The cost would be too high, with a sign in front of every building and unique permits for each residence.
Instead, Wilde recommended dividing the neighborhood into six "subdistricts" and issuing different permits for residents in each subdistrict to ease enforcement and costs. Residents would park anywhere in their subdistrict.
The City Council is deeply interested in a parking permit district because it is heavily invested in helping people purchase and stay in homes in the Joaquin neighborhood because of the benefits of stable, single-family residents.
Increased traffic and on-street parking congestion have negatively impacted neighborhood stability, Wilde said.
Visitor parking permits are included in the plan. Businesses would get one parking permit for every two employees during their busiest shift, with a maximum of five permits.
All restrictions would be in effect 24 hours a day, except for Saturdays, Sundays and holidays.
BYU students have been particularly exercised about the possibility of parking meters on 800 North. The recommendation is to issue electronic permits for 80 stalls on the street. Residents could pay for a permit online with a credit card and provide vehicle and license information for enforcement purposes.
Most of the parking permit district profits would come from the meters.

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