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Originally Posted by ozone
housing for uprisingy blacks and other minorities-
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What exactly is that supposed to mean?
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Originally Posted by ozone
aka 'the projects' then you won't find so much on the West Coast......We do have a couple of housing projects that look a little like those in the Bronx but they have always been market-rate.
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There are plenty of projects on the west coast. SF for one has dozens of them, including some that are and/or were amazingly run down and crime ridden (to the point that several years ago a few were named by the US dept. of HUD as among the worst projects in the nation). Oakland has projects too, and LA has tons as well. Many more CA cities have projects too, including Sacramento, and I know Seattle also has them. Projects on the west coast do tend to look much different than projects in the northeast though. They tend to be 1-3 stories barracks-style buildings here (similar to many projects in the south and midwest, from pics i've seen of those ones), and are often built of wood, rather than the giant brick highrises you often get in a place like NYC. And around here, newer projects tend to be cheesy-looking townhomes that at a glance look like they belong in a middle class cookie-cutter suburb. We do have tower projects too, in SF and Oakland, at least, but they're relatively small compared to many of their equivalents on the east coast it seems (the tallest ones in SF for example are/were between 10-20 stories), and many have been demolished by now anyway as towers had a tendency of becoming overrun with extra drug dealers and shady people.
And to back it up with numbers:
Public Housing units as a percentage of total housing units:
Boston - 14,000 units - 5.5% of housing units
New York - 178,554 units - 5.4% of housing units
Baltimore - 10,000 units - 3.4% of housing units
Minneapolis - 5,800 units - 3.3% of housing units
Oakland - 3,308 units - 2% of housing units
San Francisco - 6,575 units - 1.8% of housing units
Milwaukee - 4,303 units - 1.8% of housing units
Seattle - 5,200 units - 1.8% of housing units
Sacramento - 3,144 units - 1.7% of housing units
Chicago - 16,500 units - 1.4% of housing units
Detroit - 4,000 units - 1.1% of housing units
Kansas City, MO - 1,964 units - 0.9% of housing units
Houston - 4,200 units - 0.5% of housing units
Los Angeles - 9,300 units - 0.7% of housing units
San Diego - 1,800 units - 0.4% of housing units
That list is not at all complete, and represents data taken only from city housing authority websites where they actually had in depth data on how many public housing units the city had (many other city websites had no data, or combined public housing units and section 8 vouchers into one single number). That also means that the data is not necessarily all from the same year, since they all come from different sources, which is another reason why it's not the best list...but they should all be within a few years of each other, and it's the only list there is of public housing ratios, and it should give a decent idea of where those cities stand in relation to one another.
The point is, it's pretty clear that west coast cities do have plenty of projects by US standards. Not the most, but they're definitely there.