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Old Posted Aug 16, 2018, 2:37 PM
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I just can’t fathom that people seem to be claiming that this is somehow laudable, because it’s slightly denser than Northeastern suburbia:



That looks like hell on Earth.
That's for sure a better way to build than how the Northeast suburbs do. In neighborhoods like that, you can very easily walk to a school, or grocery store, or bank, etc. There are suburbs in the Houston area for example, that have trails that lead to neighborhood shopping centers for this very reason. Will it be as close like if you were in the core of town? No, but it's way better than how the suburbs are on the EC.

I just find it interesting that the same people that throw shade at the Sunbelt for having more sprawly central cities are perfectly okay with the suburbs of the more dense cities sprawling much worse than the Sunbelt ones. In the end, it means urban area sizes and densities are relatively the same among like-sized metro areas, except the Sunbelt metros have better opportunities to become denser.

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Plano appears to have one walkable block (15th between K and J). The rest is typical Texas. And this is a city of 270k? Come on...

Every Westchester village with a train station has more than that. Mt Kisco has a better walkable built environment than Plano:

https://goo.gl/maps/XH8pQd2YwsF2
It's certainty more than a block and there is a lot of development going on in Downtown Plano, which also has two light rail stops. It's not stuck in time. In fact, there's a small fight going on with some residents who are worried at all the development the city has planned for it, even though there is no more land left in the city. This is the type of stuff you're seeing in many Sunbelt suburbs as corporations continue to move here, people need places to live, and cities want to increase their tax base. You probably wouldn't see this with stagnant growth.
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