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Originally Posted by miketoronto
It shows how many times people come out to the suburbs.
Toronto's suburbs actually have pretty narrow roads compared to most other North American suburban areas.
Yes there are portions where the roads get into 6 lane territory. However even in those situations, there is usually no medians, and the roads are pretty narrow.
The norm in suburban Toronto however, is 4 lane arterial roads, with left turning lanes in sections.
So the idea that us suburbanites live on these huge wide wides, is actually not very true.
Here is Finch Ave. See not that wide at all.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=...55.72,,0,-3.48
In fact I would bet that Toronto's small arterial roads are partly the result of the good bus service on these streets. If these streets had to handle the 30,000-50,000 extra car trips a day that these bus routes remove from stretches of each of these major east-west roads, I bet the roads would be a lot wider. |
Typical miketoronto view on Scarborough. Always looking at it through rose coloured glasses. If you think I don't know Scarborough and have no idea what it's main roads look like then you are sadly mistaken. Your example of Finch is pretty funny. I suggest others look at it as well. Notice where the sidewalks are, and how wide the the grass section is between it and the road. They could easily fit in 4 more lanes of traffic there which is why they put the sidewalks where they did. If Finch is your best example, and I'm sure it is your argument about Scarborough being quaint with narrow roads has been quashed. Also notice the lack of pedestrians. Count them all if you can.
Shepphard, Finch, Eglignton, Kingston, Morningside, McCowan, Markham, Kennedy, Warden, Woodbine, Victoria Park, all your main roads, all are unfriendly environments for pedestrians to use. Scarborough offers almost zero in the way of human scale infrastructure. In all the years I've seen you post I have yet to witness you show Scarborough to be anything but a heaven for the automobile.
Shepperd should be completed as heavy rail seeing as it makes no sense to switch to LRT on either end of Lastmans screwup, but the rest should be at grade LRT outside of the core. How do you think they will get a subway across the Don Valley Parkway to East York and Scarborough? And who will pay for it.