Most of Chicago's system is diesel as is most (all?) of Boston's system, so obviously that doesn't make a system a "joke" at least compared to most of the continent. Of course I realize Toronto is just a popular insult target for some so such remarks shouldn't be interpreted as serious points.
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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw
Don't ask people not to debate a topic. Just stop making debatable assertions. Problem solved.
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