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Originally Posted by jlousa
This thread shouldn't have been created and belongs in the general transit thread. The reason isn't just to keep things confined, it's to bring structure to the forum as a whole. It's not great for the forum in general when a typical user searches for new threads and has 20 threads out of 100 coming out of ssp:Vancouver, it drives them away needlessly. I'm sure we can cope with slightly less threads. I will leave this open for now and let the other mods discuss. Going forward before opening a new thread just ask yourself if the discussion could fit into an existing thread, if in doubt you can always pm one of us, we don't want to stop people from creating threads, lets just think it thru beforehand.
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I fully disagree.
It might be easy to keep your head in the game on one single thread when you post every day, but I've been busy for 2 months, and all I want to do is read up on the fare review policy and read a few posts about transit fantasies (and keep my eye on the Downtown Streetcar), without having to read a hundred posts about the snow. I just want the posts on the topics I'm interested in. There is no way I'm reading that thread at all after even a week away.
It's like showing up at a party, and everyone is having a completely different conversation with each other occupant in the room. How do you jump into a discussion about The Expanse, when 80% of the volume in the room is dedicated to Trump?
Imagine, if instead, you show up to the party, shout out, "Hey, who's talking about the Expanse (and not Trump)?" And the small group in the corner all raised their hands, so you could go over there and talk to them about how awesome last weeks episode was instead of going through the room person by person and listening to them talk about Trump.
Sure, having a party in one big room makes your party look successful and popular, but it sure doesn't condone useful discussion, which is what this whole forum is about.
If the logic of fewer threads makes sense, then why have ANY threads at all? Why not just post our brain vomit on twitter and be done with this website?
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Originally Posted by GlassCity
I fully agree that it's unfair for a Maple Ridge to White Rock trip to be cheaper than a Joyce to Patterson trip. This is why I support a free first fare crossing with increased zones, no zones at all, or even just distance-based. I just want to make sure we keep simplicity in mind if we go the distance-based route, because it could affect a lot of people—specifically those that would have the hardest time dealing with it.
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I disagree. The cost in the current fare system doesn't directly reflect trip length and cost per passenger. It also reflects complexity. It also reflects capital cost. It also reflects prioritizing limited resources and encouraging use.....
The trip from Maple Ridge to White Rock is cheaper than the trip from Joyce to Patterson is because it is an awful trip to have to make.
From Joyce to Patterson, I could leave my house at any time of the day, and my trip not deviate in length my more than a couple minutes. From Maple Ridge to White Rock, you would be lucky if the trip is available every hour during peak periods.
The lower costs is meant to encourage use. The lower cost is meant to make up for the fact that there isn't a bus leaving from Maple Ridge direct to White Rock every 2 minutes.
Look at the cheaper fare as compensation for the poor sap that needs to make that trip. Without that compensation, you would just drive.
And if transit were just about facilitating the most popular trips to make money, instead of providing a service to the general population, then you could just privatize it and let them cut 7/8ths of all bus routes.