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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 4:06 AM
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Originally Posted by yankeesfan1000 View Post
At the end of the day, the non transferable air rights that currently occupy the block that houses Penn Station and MSG are way too valuable to be left undeveloped.

Unfortunately the Dolans opted for a renovation as opposed to a move and a new arena. But with the snow ball pace of the convention center deal, the immense value of that real estate as residential, or mixed use of some sort, and the fact that MSG just finished their renovations, I really doubt that the timing would line up for the garden to move to where the Javits is now.

With that in mind, a move to the Farley Post Office seems to be the most logical place. The Far West Side where the Javits Center is now, will develop into a great neighborhood on its own because of the immense amount of park space that will be built, some of which is under construction now. But that stretch along 9th Avenue could really use a boost like a new arena.

I just hope the Dolans realize that the Far West Side/Javits Center site, and the Farley Post Office Building could be their last real opportunities to relocate to a prime site within Manhattan. But given that it's the Dolans, I'm expecting the worse, which is for them to stay put.
Well, it's quite clear that they won't be moving for decades now unless somebody comes along with some major deal to these owners. They pumped hundreds of millions into this renovation, so the city blew its chance to make a deal last time. I don't see them ever moving to the Javitz area.

I'm so sickened by this waste of an opportunity. This article is years too late. I remember little outcry about Penn when they were planning that last deal and very little public interest or hype about it. Why bother writing this now?

He's right though, the Farley is a poor excuse for a restoration of Penn since it will only process a small percentage of people. They better do something to improve the dungeon that is Penn if this is the way it's going to be for decades.

Is there no other way they could open it up by demolishing another building or digging up roads?

How about building a new station adjacent to the tracks on another block and have passageways connecting this new headhouse with the platforms for LIRR/NJT?

Does anybody know if the original Penn had platforms/tracks open to the light? If not, all we need is a decent head-house for all to make up for the loss.

Also, why don't they just take over the entire Farley building and use it for everything, not just amtrak.. it appears big enough if the annex is incorporated, no?
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