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Old Posted Feb 17, 2012, 1:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey View Post
Where does it say both NJ and NY , its less on the NY side , and its divided on the NJ side. Most New Jerseyites are against building lines into the city , they see it as taking jobs from Jersey....and they rather see $$ invested in Urban Jersey. Which is why you see support for Northern Branch LRT and Glassboro LRT , but not much for any line feeding NY. Although anything feeding Hoboken is alright. The PA only has one project and that's the WTC project , they keep saying they'll upgrade the Bridges , tunnels and PATH , but nothing is happening.... They won't even hand over there documents to prove there constructing something... NJT would object to anything that puts pressure on the network , so there opposed to the Secaucus option , they would be in support for Hoboken which is under capacity on both the PATH and NJT. The Gateway Project would benefit a larger section of this region and not just NJ , CT and NY could expand there networks.. The 7 Project cannot do that and encourages driving with the Secaucus option. Politicians in this region have a history of talking up a storm and doing nothing. Transit advocates , Fanners and Employees like me often know whats going to happen , and the facts here are the in its current setup it will be blocked.
The MTA would be footing most of the bill (amount variable due to likely federal funding), Christie indicated that NJ would participate financially what that would look like is TBD. As far as limiting NJ-NY transit expansion to make NJ somehow more attractive to corporations...lol. The MTA has already invested billions in the ESA and not corporate business parks on Long Island for a reason. Businesses want to operate in NYC. Subway service to either Secaucus (which is horridly underused for how big it is) or Hoboken (where NJT has room to grow) would be making better use of NJT, not taking away from it.

The current PA capital plan includes about $5.5B in projects. Their wish list swells that to $25ish billion. None of which includes PATH expansion (actual construction) which already operates at capacity during rush and is increasingly shouldering more passengers due to toll increases. The signal project will up capacity some but it isn't going to accommodate another 10 years of growth.

I think at least parts of Gateway are going to happen and should but it's going to take a lot longer than proposed.
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