An urban Midtown/Downtown

[scania]

Which area would be the section to live in the next 2 or 3 years?

Allen Plaza
Midtown (between 5th & 10th)
Midtown (between 11th & 15th)
Atlantic Station

Keep in mind everything that is being built and going to be built.

My personal pick will be Midtown (between 5th & 10th). Because everything is pretty much in walking distance. The park is right in front of you, AP is a 10 or 15 minute walk, and on a good day AS is not to bad of a walk.

[sprtsluvr8]

Midtown is shinier, downtown more "real" in a way....I guess it depends on what appeals to you...

[dante2308]

Too many Atlanta threads here. This one should at least have the "ATLANTA:" title out of respect for the other cities in the "Southern States."

[SteveD]

Here's the current breakdown in the "Southern" subforum, by number of threads

Atlanta 24
New Orleans 10
Charlotte 6
Greenville 6
Mobile 5
Greensboro 5
Baton Rouge 4
"Alabama" 3
Birmingham 2
Montgomery 2
Richmond, Asheville, Savannah, Charleston, Myrtle Beach, Louisville, 1 each

Also, my personal preference I believe would be for the Allen Plaza area.

[Chris Creech]

Even as a frequent Atlanta poster - I have to agree.

We do get way too many Atlanta posts going, a lot of them not even on particular blockbuster projects, or areas, but just general speculation and theoretical questions, quality-of-life, etc. A lot of those could probably more appriately be put under the general discussion Atlanta Thread.

Then there's the Atlanta Project Thread for general construction items.

Then aside from some larger blockbluster items, like Atlantic Station or MARTA/Transit we do seem to have a lot of needless threads.

[Andrea]

Originally Posted by Chris Creech

Then aside from some larger blockbluster items, like Atlantic Station or MARTA/Transit we do seem to have a lot of needless threads.

It would be nice if we can find some way to keep the connector problem on the front burner. It's really a gigantic hindrance to the recovery of downtown.

[Trae]

Originally Posted by Chris Creech

Even as a frequent Atlanta poster - I have to agree.

We do get way too many Atlanta posts going, a lot of them not even on particular blockbuster projects, or areas, but just general speculation and theoretical questions, quality-of-life, etc. A lot of those could probably more appriately be put under the general discussion Atlanta Thread.

Then there's the Atlanta Project Thread for general construction items.

Then aside from some larger blockbluster items, like Atlantic Station or MARTA/Transit we do seem to have a lot of needless threads.

That's what local forums (Atlanta Metroscape) are for.

You don't have to worry about things like this. You can make a thread like this, or the others you mention. They won't be crammed into one thread (like the Atlanta Discussion thread, or Atlanta Project thread).

[sprtsluvr8]

Downtown seems to be recovering quite well, in spite of the oppressive evil of the connector.

[jason21atl]

My vote is for Allen Plaza.

[dante2308]

Everything there is to say about the connector has been. That why that thread has died.

[sprtsluvr8]

Originally Posted by dante2308

Everything there is to say about the connector has been. That why that thread has died.

More than everything really...and that damn connector has the nerve to STILL be sitting there.

[A-town]

Allen Plaza without thinking twice. Not to mention the number one community in Atlanta for years to come I think, Twelve CP is just across the street.

[Andrea]

Originally Posted by dante2308

Everything there is to say about the connector has been.

Au contraire. There's a consensus building to turn that 1960's era dinosaur into a 21st Century urban thoroughfare. If sensible minds prevail it will likely happen within the next 25-30 years. That's not very long at all, when you consider they're saying it may be 30-40 years before the Peachtree Streetcar is rolling and a century before the Beltline is done. I probably won't be around to see any of this personally but I'd like to think we can start laying the groundwork for a modern city.

As to my Aussie friends, they were mystified. They loved the river and they loved MARTA's $1.75 fare -- it's about $15 to ride the train from the airport to downtown Sydney. They were also impressed with the old Buckhead mansions and Grant Park. As to the rest of Atlanta, well, as we know, it's not exactly what you you'll find in some other cities. When I took them down Peachtree into downtown, they asked, "Could we see the central city area?" To which I replied, "Well, this is it." They didn't get it.

[dante2308]

I'll give it to you, you do keep the topic dragging on. It seems that no one is talking about until you come around. If you really want it done, do more than post on this website. Create an interest society and petition the Mayor.

[Andrea]

Originally Posted by dante2308

I'll give it to you, you do keep the topic dragging on. It seems that no one is talking about until you come around. If you really want it done, do more than post on this website. Create an interest society and petition the Mayor.

Er, a lot of us are talking about it, Dante. I realize that many folks are invested in maintaining the status quo and are extremely defensive about anything that they fear might change the connector. But the rest of us are entitled to express an opinion, too.

[sprtsluvr8]

Originally Posted by Andrea

As to my Aussie friends, they were mystified. They loved the river and they loved MARTA's $1.75 fare -- it's about $15 to ride the train from the airport to downtown Sydney. They were also impressed with the old Buckhead mansions and Grant Park. As to the rest of Atlanta, well, as we know, it's not exactly what you you'll find in some other cities. When I took them down Peachtree into downtown, they asked, "Could we see the central city area?" To which I replied, "Well, this is it." They didn't get it.

Had your friends never seen a central city or are they just mentally challenged? Or maybe you got confused and took them to Douglasville? I can hardly believe that being downtown on Peachtree St. isn't identifiable as a central city - especially Five Points or vicinity. Atlanta isn't exactly what you'll find in other cities...like which other cities and what exactly do you find there that Atlanta isn't/doesn't have? I tend to focus on the good things that Atlanta DOES have, and there are a lot of them.

Ya know, it's tiring to read the criticisms of Atlanta from outsiders, many of whom have never been here and simply jump on the easy targets that they read about. But it's even more of a concern when the pot shots and worn out "Atlanta isn't urban enough" crap comes from residents, and that's exactly where I think this is coming from. People in smaller/lesser cities than Atlanta (and there are MANY) would be and ARE amazed at the offerings of this city. If it's not good enough for you then try living in Montgomery, or Tulsa, or Toledo, etc...

Am I defensive? Yes, I am...and with good reason. If I were escorting friends around the city and they made sarcastic or rude comments like that one, the tour would be over. How about if you visit Sydney and criticize the city they are so proud of? I wonder what kind of defensive response you would get? Criticisms with a purpose are fine as are comments/questions seeking an actual answer. But a good visitor to a city keeps his catty comments and sharp criticisms to himself and enjoys the sights.

[Andrea]

Originally Posted by sprtsluvr8

Am I defensive? Yes, I am...and with good reason. If I were escorting friends around the city and they made sarcastic or rude comments like that one, the tour would be over. How about if you visit Sydney and criticize the city they are so proud of? I wonder what kind of defensive response you would get? Criticisms with a purpose are fine as are comments/questions seeking an actual answer. But a good visitor to a city keeps his catty comments and sharp criticisms to himself and enjoys the sights.

Er, they weren't criticising Atlanta or being rude or sarcastic in the least. To the contrary, they went out of their way to praise our fair Southern town. And yes, I have visited them in Sydney and heard them voice a number of specific critiques of that city. I believe what threw them off is that in Sydney and many similar cities downtown is the center of business activity, shopping, street life, etc.

Although Sunbelt cities like Atlanta are different from the traditional urban model, that doesn't necessarily make us better or worse. We simply is what we is.

[EXbubba]

Originally Posted by sprtsluvr8

Had your friends never seen a central city or are they just mentally challenged? Or maybe you got confused and took them to Douglasville? I can hardly believe that being downtown on Peachtree St. isn't identifiable as a central city - especially Five Points or vicinity. Atlanta isn't exactly what you'll find in other cities...like which other cities and what exactly do you find there that Atlanta isn't/doesn't have? I tend to focus on the good things that Atlanta DOES have, and there are a lot of them.

Ya know, it's tiring to read the criticisms of Atlanta from outsiders, many of whom have never been here and simply jump on the easy targets that they read about. But it's even more of a concern when the pot shots and worn out "Atlanta isn't urban enough" crap comes from residents, and that's exactly where I think this is coming from. People in smaller/lesser cities than Atlanta (and there are MANY) would be and ARE amazed at the offerings of this city. If it's not good enough for you then try living in Montgomery, or Tulsa, or Toledo, etc...

Am I defensive? Yes, I am...and with good reason. If I were escorting friends around the city and they made sarcastic or rude comments like that one, the tour would be over. How about if you visit Sydney and criticize the city they are so proud of? I wonder what kind of defensive response you would get? Criticisms with a purpose are fine as are comments/questions seeking an actual answer. But a good visitor to a city keeps his catty comments and sharp criticisms to himself and enjoys the sights.

I have watched Atlanta rise for the past few decades and while it is a big city with an urban core, it unfortunately seems to have forgotten its Sourthern roots and has become rather souless. My wife just got back from ATL and her impression was it was just like any other big concrete city. Not sure what she expected, but she was dissappointed at the hardness of downtown with so little greenery in the public spaces and even in Olympic Plaza. Just an opinion and not meant to be derogotory to ATL.

[LoveAtlanta]

Allen Plaza will be the best.

[CityFan]

I guess Allen Plaza will be number one.