HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForumSkyscraper Posters
     
Welcome to the SkyscraperPage Forum.

Since 1999, SkyscraperPage.com's forum has been one of the most active skyscraper enthusiast communities on the web.  The global membership discusses development news and construction activity on projects from around the world, alongside discussions on urban design, architecture, transportation and many other topics.  SkyscraperPage.com also features unique skyscraper diagrams, a database of construction activity, and publishes popular skyscraper posters.

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > SSP: Local Hamilton > Downtown & City of Hamilton

Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
     
     
  #1  
Old Posted: Jan 3, 2009, 8:10 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 15,866
Good Shepherd Square | ? | 8 fl | Under Construction

Good Shepherd Square
$55 Million value - Hamilton, Ontario

An urban infill site in a residential neighbourhood, close to Hamilton's downtown, Good Shepherd Square creates a unique campus of four buildings designed around a stand of mature trees, framing a new public parkette. Public walkways cross the site and lead to a piazza at the north end.

The complex consists of four buildings: a 55,000 sq ft Women's Services facility with transitional housing around an enclosed garden courtyard. One apartment building contains seniors apartments over a main floor Wellness Centre. The other apartment building contains family apartments over a large main floor of program and activity space. These buildings have been designed for a small footprint, with a brick podium that helps ensure a contextual fit. A small three-storey family apartment building transitions the development into the adjacent community.













Reply With Quote
     
     
  #2  
Old Posted: Jan 3, 2009, 8:11 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 15,866
From my understanding construction is suppose to start in 2009.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3  
Old Posted: Jan 3, 2009, 9:01 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 15,866
Yep, construction to start in 2009.

Plans are complete. Invited tender for the General Contractor anticipated late Winter 2008. Sub Trade tenders will depend on the General Contractor selected. Construction anticipated early Spring 2009. Further update March 2009.

Start: May, 2009 Complete: June, 2010
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #4  
Old Posted: Jan 3, 2009, 9:39 PM
realcity's Avatar
realcity realcity is offline
pwner
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 3,415
wow those are beautiful...... looks so not hamilton. I think I'm in a different city. 3.5 years of discussion and they come up with this amazing development on prime land.

wtf designed this? Trevor Garwood-Jones? Was an architect actually used? I thought I was looking at a new Barton Street Jail minus the chain link fence.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5  
Old Posted: Jan 3, 2009, 9:42 PM
Dundasguy Dundasguy is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 87
Where are the NIMBYs when you need them?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #6  
Old Posted: Jan 3, 2009, 9:47 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 15,866
^ NIMBY did delay this project for nearly 5 years.

The woman shelter is already under construction, you won't see it from King St. The buildings facing King St (8 storey) starts Spring 2009. It has two storey commercial all along King St. The architect is the same who designed Education Square, Thier + Curran Architects Inc.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7  
Old Posted: Jan 4, 2009, 12:02 AM
realcity's Avatar
realcity realcity is offline
pwner
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 3,415


they have as much design as the Monopoly Hotels

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #8  
Old Posted: Jun 22, 2010, 12:41 AM
Dwils01's Avatar
Dwils01 Dwils01 is offline
Urban Fanactic
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: North Bay
Posts: 1,576
Quote:
Originally Posted by realcity View Post


they have as much design as the Monopoly Hotels

I have to agree with your there. I passed by the sign outside the construction site today and there doesn't seem to be the much thought put into the design of these buildings, almost looks like a building that you would see in 1970's Europe. In a way, it will blend in with all the other buildings that were built in the 1970's in Hamilton. Even if the buildings don't look nice, It's great to see that this city is making progress on developing the vacant land. On another note, the buildings seem to be getting a little bigger every time I pass by them, and the crane can be seen when your driving down the 403 from the escarpment. Keep up the good work guys, and thanks for informing me about the new developments in Hamilton.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #9  
Old Posted: Jan 19, 2009, 9:17 PM
block43 block43 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 220
There are new rendorings up for this at www.tcarch.ca


Reply With Quote
     
     
  #10  
Old Posted: Jan 20, 2009, 1:34 PM
coalminecanary coalminecanary is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,018
why is there a more solid streetwall along ray than along king?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #11  
Old Posted: Jan 20, 2009, 2:17 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 15,866
Quote:
Originally Posted by coalminecanary View Post
why is there a more solid streetwall along ray than along king?
There's a trail between the two buildings along King St leading up to a park.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #12  
Old Posted: Jan 20, 2009, 3:56 PM
oldcoote's Avatar
oldcoote oldcoote is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 413
Quote:
Originally Posted by coalminecanary View Post
why is there a more solid streetwall along ray than along king?
Exactly what I was thinking.
__________________
"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13  
Old Posted: Jan 20, 2009, 1:53 PM
emge's Avatar
emge emge is offline
Needs more coffee...
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 837
good question.

at least the parking will be underground, (its supposed to be, apparently), though it looks like surface parking is in some of those renderings.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #14  
Old Posted: Jan 20, 2009, 2:22 PM
coalminecanary coalminecanary is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,018
Well, I understand that - I guess my question is a rhetorical "why would they design a streetwall with a huge gap along King St instead of putting the gap somewhere else?"
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #15  
Old Posted: Jan 20, 2009, 3:46 PM
block43 block43 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 220
Yeah they should have the podiums connect along there. Allow for some retail.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #16  
Old Posted: Jan 20, 2009, 3:57 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 15,866
This project has been delayed for years because the neighbourhood didn't like the idea of losing a park, plus it's a shelter as well. To appease the neighbourhood they built in a park and trails.

There will be retail along King St.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #17  
Old Posted: Jan 20, 2009, 4:20 PM
flar's Avatar
flar flar is offline
..........
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ottawa-Gatineau
Posts: 9,802
The only problem with retail along King is that there is already a ton of under- and un- used retail along King (and other streets). As an example, I wonder if they will ever fill the retail space at the Gore Building or Terraces on King? They haven't been able to fill 2 out of 5 retail spaces in the West Village Condos on Main West either.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #18  
Old Posted: Jan 20, 2009, 4:36 PM
highwater highwater is offline
Closed account
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 1,555
Quote:
Originally Posted by flar View Post
They haven't been able to fill 2 out of 5 retail spaces in the West Village Condos on Main West either.
There's no street parking and the shops are separated from the street by a bier. It's very uninviting to passersby and sends the clear message that those businesses are for the building residents only, and students just aren't the cash cow that everyone thinks they are. Too bad. Another missed opportunity to integrate students with the city.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #19  
Old Posted: May 18, 2009, 5:59 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is offline
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 15,866






Reply With Quote
     
     
  #20  
Old Posted: May 18, 2009, 7:19 PM
emge's Avatar
emge emge is offline
Needs more coffee...
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 837
^^ a bit belated on the retail side, but it's frustrating from that standpoint because on the north side especially, the businesses between Locke and Pearl are separated so much from either Dundurn or Queen.
I hope some retail ends up in this project.. with a few businesses around Ray Street (flooring, laundromat) it would have been nice if this project functioned to create a solid wall of businesses from Locke almost all the way to Queen. I also think it would help the BIA talks that have been "in progress" about extending the King West BIA/creating a new one for the stretch up to Locke for a couple years now. If there's no retail, businesses will further become islands among stretches of highway.

I know in the area I work, many of the businesses have been there for decades and rely on customer loyalty (Gilbert's, 55 yrs, La Moda, 35+ years, Tony's Barber shop, 40+ years) but the newer businesses are either ones that function without needing walkby retail (eg MJM Productions) or have a significant portion of their business occur outside of their retail store (e.g. Woodland Creations - most of his businesses is craft fairs/events, not retail). No one is basing their businesses there on walk-by clientele.

This isn't really going to help - nor will businesses that typically have higher-end clients (e.g. Hess Financial) see any benefit from this project because there's no overlap between their customers and those who will use this facility.
Reply With Quote
     
     
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > SSP: Local Hamilton > Downtown & City of Hamilton
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:07 AM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.