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Old Posted May 25, 2010, 7:24 PM
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Arrow Circuit of the Americas Formula 1 Race Track

[QUOTE]After a three-year hiatus, Formula One is coming back to the states in 2012 and the city that's been chosen to host the World Cup of Motorsports? Austin, Texas. Yes, Austin.

According to the release from F1, the race will be held in the city from 2012 to 2021, and since Austin doesn't have a race track, a facility will be purpose-built to host the events. Get all the details in the press release after the jump.

[Source: Formula One | Image: Corbis/Getty]/QUOTE]
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/05/25/b...texas-in-2012/

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Old Posted May 25, 2010, 7:29 PM
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Very cool! Just read the story in the Statesman a few moments ago...I was wondering where the other F1 racing locations were in the US... guess that answers my question. Puts us in rather select company! Where would they race? Purpose-built facility or on existing roads?

EDIT: Your article notes a purpose-built facility. Wonder where?

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Mayor: Formula One is coming to Austin


By Austin American-Statesman staff
Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 02:39 PM


Formula One is coming to Austin, Mayor Lee Leffingwell says.
Leffingwell said he had a conversation with State Comptroller Susan Combs several months ago to start conversations about bringing the global racing event to Austin.

“We have been working with them ever since I first met with Susan to try to make this happen,” Leffingwell said.

According to published reports Tuesday, Austin will host an annual race from 2012 through 2021.

“This is a case of the right timing in the right place,” said Austin-based Tavo Hellmund, the managing parter of Full Throttle Productions, a special event and sports production company that was formed in 2005. “As many Americans know, Austin has earned a reputation as one of the ‘it’ cities in the United States.”
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... regarding location, it would seem most logical to place along or near the 130 corridor, given available land, proximity to air and ground (highway, out-of-town) transportation, etc. Of course, the eastern fringes of Austin hardly resemble the Hill Country, as the press releases tout
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... regarding location, it would seem most logical to place along or near the 130 corridor, given available land, proximity to air and ground (highway, out-of-town) transportation, etc.
I wonder if they might put it on the site of the abandoned Villa Muse project? The whole Villa Muse project was supposed to be 681 acres 15 minutes east of downtown and 15 minutes northeast of the airport.
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Wow, this is incredible!!! HUGE!!! Hopefully NASCAR will run an event here too.
Now we truly need more Hotel rooms. First I heard of this. Mayor and Gov kept this quiet for a while. Wherever they put the track, it will need to be directly off I35 or 130. These are usually up to week long events which includes promotions, qualifying and the actual race. The track could also be used by tire companies for testing their tires, road rallies, 24 hour races, car companies test driving their vehicles, motorcycle racing and more. OK I'm dreaming, but this is a huge big league victory for Austin.
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This can't be valid...wish it was...this is the most prestigious sport in the world....ton's of $$$$$...It would make Austin a world destination...
Here's the problem. F-1 flys their cars and support equipment in modified Boeing 747's,...ABIA can't handle 747's..
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Here's the problem. F-1 flys their cars and support equipment in modified Boeing 747's,...ABIA can't handle 747's..
With a runway nearly 12,000' long, they have more than enough pavement to handle a 747 landing or, more relevantly, taking off.

Now, I'm unaware of any gates configured to "handle" a 747 on a jetbridge, but they wouldn't need those anyway.

The airport is a non-issue. Mueller certainly would've been.
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This is HUGE. I'm so excited.
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http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...0/5/10824.html

Its official. this is HUGE... much bigger than a super bowl event. this is like holding the olympics in austin

Time to start building hotels... lots of em.

Regarding the airport... that's funny. For a while ABIA had the longest runway in TX and was an alternate land site for the shuttle. Remember it was a military base first... Any plane can take off and land with ease on the west runway. 13K feet long. It was 14K feet long when the military ran it. DFW's strips were 10K feet but about 10 years ago they extended almost all of them to 12K feet. Jet bridgets are on hydrolics... they can adapt to 747s etc no problemo.
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Algarve hasn't held an F1 race, but it is a similar facility. Bahrain, Circuit Losail in Qatar, Shanghai International Circuit are ones built in recent years, Yas Marina in Abu Dhabi was opened up last year.

Hopefully it comes through, then I won't have to travel too far to. We went to Indy in 2007 and had been looking at going to a race next year somewhere.
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I watched a 747 with the space shuttle strapped to its back land on ABIA's longest runway (when it was Berstrom AFB). Not sure why you don't think they can handle 747's with a few open wheeled vehicles and equipment.
They can handle the unloading at the cargo area using fork trucks.
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I hope this means add ons to ABIA.
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This is exactly what I have been wanting to come here for years. That is just awesome! Huge win for Austin! Now it just better happen.
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when I read about this yesterday I literally couldn't stop laughing. Having composed myself, here's what I have to say about this, ladies: there is zero chance that this will happen; no one will spend $250 million plus on this because - think about it - no one can. And for those of you who've lived in Europe or are otherwise familiar with F1, you know about Bernie Ecclestone and I don't need to say anything about him. Anyway, that 60 room tower over the Robertsons' old building on Congress has a better chance of happening than an F1 track (and that's saying something).
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when I read about this yesterday I literally couldn't stop laughing. Having composed myself, here's what I have to say about this, ladies: there is zero chance that this will happen; no one will spend $250 million plus on this because - think about it - no one can. And for those of you who've lived in Europe or are otherwise familiar with F1, you know about Bernie Ecclestone and I don't need to say anything about him. Anyway, that 60 room tower over the Robertsons' old building on Congress has a better chance of happening than an F1 track (and that's saying something).
Here's the problem with your statement. One, Formula 1 would not be announcing this in the first place if they didn't intend to do it. They signed a contract with the city of Austin. Two, This has been in the works for awhile now albiet secretive. I got off the phone just this morning with a friend in San Jose, who has connections with people who have known about this deal for months and he knew this announcenment was comming even though he didn't bother to tell me ealier which I chewed him out for it lol. Three..., im not sure where your getting that $250 million from because they havn't stated the ammount that this would cost. The $250 million is the ammount of money that will be pumped into the Austin economy because of this event. You remind me of all those who said the Austonian would never be built lol.

This is earth shattering news for the city of Austin. Not only will we be hosting a true international event, but there will be thousands of new jobs that will be created here because of Formula 1. Not just the event itself, but the residual affect. Hotels will be sprining up downtown like weeds (hopefully tall ones), not to mention other parts of the city. The track will be used year around as well, not just for this one event. Companies that are researching alternative fuels will set up shop here to use the track for testing. This is as big as they come for any city and this will propel our city like a slingshot over the next several years. You think our population was going to grow before, now with this announcment you can bank on a pretty big population growth spurt that most likely would have never happend if this event never came here.
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I know some of you hate roads, but with all of this "world-class growth," what can be done to improve Austin's infrastructure to handle the growth ?

From San Marcos, I've found that it often takes as long to travel 25 miles north to Austin as it does to travel 50 miles south to San Antonio.
San Antonio is also a large, fast-growing city, but somehow I never see the traffic jammed up like I do so often on Austin's stretch of I-35.

What is I-35 going to be like when you host world-class events like Formula One ?
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I know some of you hate roads, but with all of this "world-class growth," what can be done to improve Austin's infrastructure to handle the growth ?

From San Marcos, I've found that it often takes as long to travel 25 miles north to Austin as it does to travel 50 miles south to San Antonio.
San Antonio is also a large, fast-growing city, but somehow I never see the traffic jammed up like I do so often on Austin's stretch of I-35.

What is I-35 going to be like when you host world-class events like Formula One ?
I went to San Antonio a few times this month, I-35 around Selma/Schertz is just as bad and 410 gets bad. The people complain about Austin traffic I guess have never been stuck in traffic in Dallas or Houston.

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Congrats to Austin.

Too bad Fort Worth already has two NASCAR and one Izod Indy Car racing events, because that just leaves one Formula 1 event per year.
NASCAR isn't expanding anymore, there's already new oval tracks waiting inline for a new Nascar event. it's possible Izod Indy Car may provide a second event for the Austin track to strengthen its appeal in Texas. I'm not so sure F1 would allow that.

There are road courses all over America available for testing new technologies already, a new one really isn't needed.
There is only one FIA sanctioned track in the US, Indy. Nascar ovals are overbuilt as the wait for race dates shows. There is a shortage of tracks that can hold these type of events in this part of the country as most of the tracks are country club style tracks or older tracks, neither were designed to handle these type of events. Road courses can handle all sorts of events and for the track to be profitable they would have to have other high profile events along with a bunch of regional events.

A FIA sanctioned track where F1 race could become the premiere facility in the country and attract the events that don't come to this part of the country because the proper facilities don't exist. I could see an ALMS race signing on quickly, they have nothing between Miller (Salt Lake City) and Barber (Birmingham, Alabama) since the Houston event folded due to the IRL/Champ Car merger, it was a crappy parking lot race anyway. World Superbike has hinted at wanting a second race in the US, MotoGP is another possibility.

I have heard there are large foreign investors behind this proposal, which if true is better than trying to get a financial company to invest in something like this. As far as the time frame many of the recent tracks have been built in about 18 months. Much of what is done is the track and necessary facilities are built and more amenities are built after the first race.

I consider myself hopeful that it will come through, I consider myself "cautiously optimistic" that it will.
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Here's the problem with your statement. One, Formula 1 would not be announcing this in the first place if they didn't intend to do it. They signed a contract with the city of Austin. Two, This has been in the works for awhile now albiet secretive. I got off the phone just this morning with a friend in San Jose, who has connections with people who have known about this deal for months and he knew this announcenment was comming even though he didn't bother to tell me ealier which I chewed him out for it lol. Three..., im not sure where your getting that $250 million from because they havn't stated the ammount that this would cost. The $250 million is the ammount of money that will be pumped into the Austin economy because of this event. You remind me of all those who said the Austonian would never be built lol.

This is earth shattering news for the city of Austin. Not only will we be hosting a true international event, but there will be thousands of new jobs that will be created here because of Formula 1. Not just the event itself, but the residual affect. Hotels will be sprining up downtown like weeds (hopefully tall ones), not to mention other parts of the city. The track will be used year around as well, not just for this one event. Companies that are researching alternative fuels will set up shop here to use the track for testing. This is as big as they come for any city and this will propel our city like a slingshot over the next several years. You think our population was going to grow before, now with this announcment you can bank on a pretty big population growth spurt that most likely would have never happend if this event never came here.
The Statesman article provided that building the track could cost $250 million. Because many other things necessary for this event would cost many additional millions of dollars, I stated that this would cost more than $250 million.

I suppose it's possible that the event would, as you say, pump $250 million into the local economy. That would be wonderful, if true. The problem would be in raising that much start up capital during perhaps the worst year for private and public finance in the history of private and public finance.

Everyone is broke. Which leads me to my next post . . .

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when I read about this yesterday I literally couldn't stop laughing. Having composed myself, here's what I have to say about this, ladies: there is zero chance that this will happen; no one will spend $250 million plus on this because - think about it - no one can. And for those of you who've lived in Europe or are otherwise familiar with F1, you know about Bernie Ecclestone and I don't need to say anything about him. Anyway, that 60 room tower over the Robertsons' old building on Congress has a better chance of happening than an F1 track (and that's saying something).
It may, the State of Texas is providing 25,000,000 a year to host the event in Austin for a ten-year run. If the event happens, we - Texas - are open to providing more dinero.
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