Canadian Airport Thread II

Xelebes · #1 Posted **Oct 22, 2023, 6:19 AM**

This thread is a continuation of the previous thread. Please proceed.

MonctonRad · #2 Posted **Oct 22, 2023, 3:43 PM**

Archived previous thread here:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=153826

JakeLRS · #3 Posted **Oct 22, 2023, 4:49 PM**

Whoa, the previous thread lasted about 15 years! That seems absolutely crazy, especially considering all the changes, airport upgrades, and new airlines that came in that period. Here is to another 15!

Anyways, don't think it was mentioned but Flair has adjusted some flying to be year-round that was previously winter/spring seasonal. Now if it will stick is something that is yet to be seen.

YYZ-FLL 7x weekly
YYZ-SFB 4x weekly
YVR-LAS 4x weekly
YYZ-LAS 3x weekly
YYZ-KIN 3x weekly
YYZ-PUJ 1x weekly
YYZ-PVR 1x weekly

thenoflyzone · #4 Posted **Oct 24, 2023, 6:56 AM**

Looks like 8 of the 12 remaining A320s at AC (excluding Rouge) are here to stay.

https://canadianaviationnews.ca/air-...in-technology/

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Air Canada Unveils First Upgraded Airbus A321 With An All New Interior And Industry-Leading Cabin Technology

MONTREAL, Oct. 23, 2023 /CNW/ – Customers on board Air Canada flight AC692 operated with Fin 451 (C-GITU) Saturday shared a pilot’s eye view of the take-off due to new exterior cameras connected to the aircraft’s seatback entertainment system. The new camera feature, a first for a narrow-body aircraft, is one of several innovations unveiled with the airline’s first upgraded Airbus A321, which has been redesigned from nose to tail.

Air Canada is continuing to invest in customer comfort across its fleet of Airbus A321s and A320s which will feature a new cabin interior, new technologies and services such as Bluetooth audio, and free high-speed internet sponsored by Bell.

“We’re proud to welcome customers on board to experience the comfort, convenience, and connectivity of our latest cabins. These upgraded fleet interiors will align the A320s and A321s to the highly popular A220 experience, further strengthening our industry leading product offering,” said Mark Nasr, Executive Vice President, Marketing and Digital, and President of Aeroplan at Air Canada. “Additionally, new features such as our inflight entertainment system streaming exterior aircraft camera feeds, Bluetooth connectivity, and free, fast internet connectivity will be extremely popular with travellers. We will continue advancing our product leadership by trialing more new in-flight experiences with this A321 and expanding those learnings to additional aircraft in our fleet.”

Highlights of new cabin features:

Larger overhead bins – Latest Airbus Airspace XL design, the largest overhead bins in-class that will also be installed on the Airbus A321XLRs.

Upgraded seating – Presents a standardized product across the Air Canada narrowbody fleet in both Business Class and Economy. The new seats are designed to optimize passenger personal space, improve ergonomics, and provide more storage giving customers a more comfortable experience.

Bluetooth audio – Air Canada’s newest IFE system will feature a Bluetooth-enabled seatback monitor. Customers will be able to connect their personal headsets while watching video on demand, live TV, or listening to podcasts or music. This initiative helps reduce usage of single-use headphones and supports Air Canada’s sustainability objectives in reducing waste.

New exterior cameras – Customers can now watch their flight live thanks to a new first-in-class narrowbody tail and belly camera system providing high-resolution, real-time video of the aircraft exterior.

Full colour LED mood lighting – New cabin lighting system will allow different ambiances to be set depending on time of day and phase of flight.

Fast and reliable Wi-Fi – Upgraded satellite-based connectivity.

Power options at all seats – All customers have access to power outlets, USB-A, and USB-C.

The new IFE system being installed on the Airbus A321 and A320 fleets will feature Air Canada’s award-winning in-flight entertainment via screens at each seat, offering the most extensive content overall of any airline in the Americas. Customers will also enjoy live TV on their flights with this new cabin, featuring BNN, CTV, LCN, RDS, TSN1 and TSN2 available on all flights operated by this aircraft, including when flying over the US.

Air Canada’s remaining 14 Airbus A321s and its eight A320s will be retrofitted starting this fall through to the end of 2025. With these upgrades, customers will benefit from an elevated narrow-body cabin experience, in line with the cabins of the Airbus A220 and Boeing 737 MAX aircraft that comprise the majority of Air Canada’s narrowbody fleet.

thewave46 · #5 Posted **Oct 26, 2023, 4:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Looks like 8 of the 12 remaining A320s at AC (excluding Rouge) are here to stay.

I suspect AC will keep a mixed 737 MAX/A320 fleet for the foreseeable future, but the continued noises of AC seem to portend a shift to the A320neo for mid-size narrowbody replacement some day.

Dominion301 · #6 Posted **Oct 24, 2023, 1:13 PM**

Porter turned 17 yesterday.

thenoflyzone · #7 Posted **Oct 24, 2023, 1:19 PM**

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Porter turned 17 yesterday.

Question is, will it live to see 20, or will it be bought out by a competitor….

casper · #8 Posted **Oct 25, 2023, 5:02 AM**

That is concerning

A Helijet flight (12 passengers and 2 crew) was hit by lightning, lost instrumentation, declared a PAN-PAN before landing in Victoria harbour. The helicopter lost two of four tail rotor blades. Landed safely.

https://www.timescolonist.com/local-...strike-7731838

I have only been on it twice, if you have not, their cute safety video gives a good overview of this airline. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vxzlUNQjHk

YYCguys · #9 Posted **Oct 25, 2023, 10:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by casper

That is concerning

A Helijet flight (12 passengers and 2 crew)…..their cute safety video gives a good overview of this airline. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vxzlUNQjHk

Oh my! That was hilarious! Thanks for that pick me up!

ScreamingViking · #10 Posted **Oct 25, 2023, 10:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by casper

A Helijet flight (12 passengers and 2 crew) was hit by lightning, lost instrumentation, declared a PAN-PAN before landing in Victoria harbour. The helicopter lost two of four tail rotor blades. Landed safely.

It's great that they made it to the heliport and touched down... on land. Reading your message I was thinking "oh wow, they landed IN the harbour, but safely"

casper · #11 Posted **Oct 25, 2023, 3:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

It's great that they made it to the heliport and touched down... on land. Reading your message I was thinking "oh wow, they landed IN the harbour, but safely"

Sorry about that. Yes, they made it to the heliport.

They operate a harbour to harbour service, but do land on land.

Djeffery · #12 Posted **Oct 25, 2023, 10:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Question is, will it live to see 20, or will it be bought out by a competitor….

I've been hearing that since the year they started. Maybe one day it will be true lol.

hollywoodcory · #13 Posted **Oct 25, 2023, 6:16 PM**

In this weeks update, WS extended a bunch of winter routes into May/June:

YYC-HNL
YYC-OGG
YYC-VRA
YYC-FLL
YYC-MBJ
YYC-PUJ
YEG-PHX
YVR-PHX
YWG-PHX
YQR-PHX
YXE-PHX
YQR-LAS
YXE-LAS
YHM-MCO

Most are showing until mid to late June, well some were only extended until late May.

thenoflyzone · #14 Posted **Oct 26, 2023, 12:54 AM**

I don’t know….Hank never inverted his aircraft like Denzel did….on purpose, and drunk while doing it! Denzel wins it in my book! (Side note: that scene with John Goodman coming to Denzel’s rescue in the hotel room is epic!)

But I digress. On to more relevant subject matter.

TS will start year round YUL-RAK next summer. New destination in Africa for YUL, bringing the tally to 5. A lof of firsts with this flight. First African destination for TS. First A321LR service between North America and Africa. First North American destination for Marrakesh.

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231026-tsns24rak

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Air Transat will operate 2 weekly Montreal – Marrakech service with Airbus A321neo aircraft, effective 12JUN24.

TS396 YUL2005 – 0800+1RAK 32Q 36
TS397 RAK0945 – 1225YUL 32Q 47

YOWflier · #15 Posted **Oct 26, 2023, 1:24 PM**

Heard a rumour that some entity in Canada is sniffing around the A350. Speculate away.

MonctonRad · #16 Posted **Oct 26, 2023, 1:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by YOWflier

Heard a rumour that some entity in Canada is sniffing around the A350. Speculate away.

JT is looking at it for a new CanForce 1. He plans on living in it full time and consigning 24 Sussex to the wreckers ball.

thewave46 · #17 Posted **Oct 26, 2023, 3:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by YOWflier

Heard a rumour that some entity in Canada is sniffing around the A350. Speculate away.

Hmmm....

Westjet? Nah, they're confirmed Boeing fanboys, and they're committed to the sweet sweet deals of being Boeing-exclusive. They don't need many more expensive long-haul planes at this juncture and a second widebody fleet to their 787s would be folly from an operations point-of-view.

Air Transat? Their A330s are getting long in the tooth, but the A350 is a decent step up in capacity and range. They're more capacity/range than I figure Air Transat would really benefit from, as they pack passengers into the A330 pretty densely and don't do much beyond Eastern Canada to Europe for range. I'd expect them to go A330neo or used A330 before going whole-hog on fancy A350s, but I've been wrong before.

Air Canada? Hmmm. Their 777s are mid-life. The 777-200LRs are pretty thirsty given the number of passengers they carry, but their range can't be beat. The 777-300ER packs them in, 400-450 passengers worth. The A350-900 has the legs for -200LR missions; the A350-1000 can pack the seats in, similar to the -300ER. The 777X is close to flying, but it's a step upwards in size and remains unproven. Mostly, I'm just curious as to why AC would be moving so quickly on 777 replacement at all given they just committed to the 787-10 to replace their aging A330s. Unless Airbus is just chomping at the bit for sales, or AC thinks that the fuel savings of the A350 will make the capital spend worth it to replace the 777?

thenoflyzone · #18 Posted **Oct 26, 2023, 7:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by thewave46

Air Transat? Their A330s are getting long in the tooth, but the A350 is a decent step up in capacity and range. They're more capacity/range than I figure Air Transat would really benefit from, as they pack passengers into the A330 pretty densely and don't do much beyond Eastern Canada to Europe for range. I'd expect them to go A330neo or used A330 before going whole-hog on fancy A350s, but I've been wrong before.

In range, yes, but capacity (at least for the A350-900), no.

The A350-900 and A330-300 both have the same exit limit capacity. 440 passengers (in fact, so does the 787-10). So it's a perfect replacement for the plane. If TS buys the A359, you can expect the same kind of seating config it has on the A333s. ~345-375 passengers, maybe slightly more, as the A359 enables 10 abreast seating.

Look at Air Caraibes. Similar shindig to TS, minus the narrowbody fleet, and they operate both the A330 and A350.

Considering TS is the only airline with an all-Airbus fleet in Canada, it is the likely candidate for an A350 order at the moment.

thewave46 · #19 Posted **Oct 26, 2023, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

Considering TS is the only airline with an all-Airbus fleet in Canada, it is the likely candidate for an A350 order at the moment.

I'm mostly curious as to what advantages the A350 would offer over the A330neo. The A350 has longer legs and its advantage with fuel efficiency increases as flight distance increases, but Air Transat is mostly doing Eastern Canada to Europe flying. That's stuff that a narrowbody aircraft can do these days. Hardly pushing the edges of distance there.

For Transat's network, the A330neo offers a pretty good package. The A350 seems more expensive for marginal benefit.

thenoflyzone · #20 Posted **Oct 29, 2023, 7:14 AM**

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New AC weekly departure numbers:

YYZ 1782
YUL 917
YVR 875
YYC 245
YOW 203
YHZ 170
YEG 151
YWG 104