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Old Posted Jun 20, 2007, 7:13 PM
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I don't like the Strip entrance. There's nothing special, just bricks, it's completely uninspired.
The tower looks good though. BTW, what's the blue thing between the "two wings" of the tower? Is it a waterfall ? Or something which look like a waterfall ? Or completely something else ?
I like the entrace, sleek, modern, sexy. Oh and the Blue thing is the back of the Shang-La, stuck between the ass crack of the two towers, maybe that is a waterfall!? Tha'd be kool.

Other than the Echelon Entrance and possible Waterfall, the project is LAME. An un-inspired ripoff of CityCenter, all that anticipation only to be dissapointed by boring glass boxes.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2007, 8:45 PM
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Although it is a concave shape that pulls your eye toward the center, the over all look of the corner entrance is drab, offish, intimidating and boring, sort of like a business park or a soulless bank building.
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It’s now official; Kirk Kerkorian will NOT purchase the Bellagio and CityCenter. Too much money to be made on the North end of the strip after the announcement of the joint venture between MGM Mirage and Kerzner International Holdings Inc.

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Old Posted Jun 20, 2007, 10:25 PM
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After seeing the Echelon rendering the 3rd time, I am really starting to like the design of the Stardust a lot more. I can live with the 2 main towers, but the black and white towers on the left just scream COMMIE-BLOCKS.

Actually, I think this project will become an Eyesore, just like the Aladdin.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2007, 11:15 PM
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The main entrace is actually quite bland, yes. However, it could be easily changed and made much more attractive or, at least, exciting. I know it's simple and it's been done quite often, but just turn it into a vid-wall (similar to the Miracle Mile Shops). It would, at least, create an enticing entrance to the resort and would provide that "wow" feature that it desperately needs, for first timers at least. Also, it would provide the resort with it's Strip signage. No longer would Boyd need to find some area on the Strip frontage to construct a large, uninventive sign, they could just use the vid-screen.
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I have to say that I am sad that such a historic casino like Stardust (even though it wasn't an architectural wonder) is lost to this. I believe that CityCenter will be great in its own way, but I really hope the strip doesn't go to flowing glass and unthemed casinos.

It is also good to hear about the possible Atlantis Casino and good job MGM power play to keep its favorite projects. Thanks for this blog too, I am at beach and burned to a crisp so this is a nice distraction.
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2007, 1:23 AM
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Echelon - Delano Mondrian

More renderings and description found here: http://www.oppenoffice.com/





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Old Posted Jun 21, 2007, 1:54 AM
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Wow! Looks like Mondrian is up on stilts or something. Not your normal "commie block".
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2007, 2:06 AM
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EWW The Delano is FUGLY! Whats with the top!!!??

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Actually, I think this project will become an Eyesore, just like the Aladdin.
I have to disagree, I love the tower, makes great chemistry with the Paris Hotel.
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That Oppenheim website says that their concept won the competition for the Delano/Mondrian design. They have the Delano 400 feet above ground, supported by an LED covered column. That would be cool, but have they replaced such design with the very bland design they released yesterday? Supposedly, the Mondrian is inspired by the 2001 Space Odyssey monolith, but it looks like a 1970s bank tower.
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2007, 3:23 AM
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if that is indeed the new Delano Mondarin design i will give this project a B+ instead of the C- that it currently has.

Echelon hotel is still crap in my eyes though. first off, the hotel's side faces the strip, so strip patrons will see the painted white side of the building. not very welcoming. second, the main entrance looks like garbage. are those concrete bricks that it will be made of? bad idea Boyd. this is not inviting at all. needs more glass and a total overhall. Boyd completely missed the boat with this, could have been a lot better designed. strip frontage is important, and basically Echelon has none. a big parking lot, a port cochere, and a concrete brick shopping area which doesnt even have the name of the casino on it.
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While we will give credit to the new Delano Mondarin design (although remember that CityCenter's preliminary models had a similar hotel in the back on stilts), the frontage is what gets me. No one is going to want to enter the resort if it's not inviting or interesting at the street level. The piller itself won't come close to impressing many who have visited/seen CityCenter first.

The parking lot may hurt them also, if simply to downplay the resort's value and luxury a bit to the uninformed. While they may build residential later, the streetfront parking lot will detract from the hotel itself. Everyone will wonder why all the other new hotels have nice frontage and this one puts a parking lot in front.
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Those are the most recent renderings of the Mondrian and Delano hotels, or the most recently found?
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(from LMich) Those are the most recent renderings of the Mondrian and Delano hotels, or the most recently found?
I am just guessing that they are the most recently found, and that Oppenheimer used them to win the competition, and then replaced it with something practical. But if they do go ahead with a 400 foot pillar, they should rotate the buildings to place the pillar more towards the center of the property, reducing how much they block views from the main tower, and hiding the parking garage).
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I don’t know how new they are but I haven’t seen them before. The Oppenheimer website also has Hard Rock Hotel renders:





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I think that might have been cancelled though. I can’t keep track anymore.
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2007, 11:19 PM
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Yes, those are the cancelled Hard Rock renderings (good find though)

As for Echelon Place. I think all the Echelon haters in here will change their tune once the project matures. This is an expensive project with 5-star hotels. They won't be using EIFS on the mall entrance, probably marble or granite. The Delano Mondrian building won't be a typical glass curtain either. I have a feeling this will be a beautiful project.

Naysayers, be prepared to eat your words.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2007, 2:03 AM
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^^^^i hope you are right. with this project, its Fear the Worst, Hope for the Best. hopefully the real thing will be much more appealing then the renderings.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2007, 7:18 PM
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Echelon - Delano Mondrian

More renderings and description found here: http://www.oppenoffice.com/


I don't know about the rest of you guys, but that looks awsome... It is different, and in Vegas different usually works great. To see this type of building would be 1 of the few reasons I would have to actually want to go to Echelon!!!
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2007, 7:50 PM
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I really like that building too and I hope that's what built and not the two block buildings next to each other like in the other rendering. The only problem I have with that design is that I think it should be flipped so that the LED column is facing the Strip instead of the freeway. But even so that will be a cool looking building.

P.S. Any word or pictures on the progress of the alzheimer center? Anyone?
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