MONTREAL/ tour centre-ville/ 58 floors/217M

Vaillant · #1 10-21-2009, 01:44 AM

a multi use tower proposal for Montreal

shakman · #2 10-21-2009, 02:38 PM

Very slick. Where in Montreal will this beauty be located?

Vaillant · #3 10-21-2009, 03:38 PM

will be near of caisse de dépot et placement du Québec and place jean-paul riopelle

Rico Rommheim · #4 10-21-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shakman

Very slick. Where in Montreal will this beauty be located?

in the depths of our dying heart, that's where!

MolsonExport · #5 10-21-2009, 05:36 PM

details, details!

futuresooner · #6 10-21-2009, 06:23 PM

Beautiful!

Rico Rommheim · #7 10-21-2009, 09:37 PM

The owner of the parking lot on which this project is supposed to be on has been and is still quite adamant that he will not sell his lot. Meanwhile, still in downtown, a 34 floor condo proposal was shut down because its too tall.

This project will never see the light of day.

Yeah I said it and you all know its true!

MolsonExport · #8 10-22-2009, 03:15 AM

I heard that it was the Tanya Kim Snaredrumface tower, financed by Bowel movement Ben Mulroney, and his dad, and that german schreiber dude.

Rico Rommheim · #9 10-22-2009, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I heard that it was the Tanya Kim Snaredrumface tower, financed by Bowel movement Ben Mulroney, and his dad, and that german schreiber dude.

you know what? Its entirely possible!

Cataclaw · #10 11-03-2009, 10:08 PM

This building would be built on the empty parking lot situated near the convention centre. It's next to Riopelle square, diagonally opposite from the recently completed Westin hotel.

Anyway... this thing has a snowball's chance in hell of getting built. The sad reality is that in Montreal at the moment, NIMBYs run rampant.

Like Rico said, we have trouble getting a 34 storey building (The MacKay) built in downtown, there's no way this would get built.

The secret to building anything in Montreal is to propose it 50% taller than it would be, then by the time the NIMBYs pick it to shreds, you end up with the desired height to begin with.

In other words, this tower here would have had to been an 80 floor supertall in order to get accepted at 58 storeys.

The MacKay would have required a 50+ floor proposal to "pass" at 30~ floors.

The protectionist NIMBY culture of some in this town is to fight for more modest everything.

Even 10 storey buildings have encountered NIMBY wrath and been lowered to 6 or 8 stories.

I love Montreal but it's time we quit this nonsense.

Oh well, one way or another the empty lots will eventually dry up.. sometime next decade. At that point, there will be no option left but to go up!

mr.John · #11 11-03-2009, 10:32 PM

Before blaming everything on the nimbys why aren't developers putting up towers on the massive lot between Guy-Lucien L'allier and Overdale there's enough empty space to put up 8-12 towers (I'm not exaggerating look at an aerial map) how about the lot in front of the bell centre.. enough space for two 50 story towers and how about the huge lot on Bleury and RL? again enough space for 2 or 3 towers and it goes on and on and on...I'm afraid the problem with Montreal is not the nimbys (although we have some seriously stupid people) it's lack of developers willin to risk large amounts of cash, the city's big time developers have left for Toronto and the west a long long time ago

Darkoshvilli · #12 11-03-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaillant

a multi use tower proposal for Montreal

Is it just me or there are three different buildings in this post?

Anyways, there's no way this gets built, Sad but true.

Cataclaw · #13 11-04-2009, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mr.John

Before blaming everything on the nimbys why aren't developers putting up towers on the massive lot between Guy-Lucien L'allier and Overdale there's enough empty space to put up 8-12 towers (I'm not exaggerating look at an aerial map) how about the lot in front of the bell centre.. enough space for two 50 story towers and how about the huge lot on Bleury and RL? again enough space for 2 or 3 towers and it goes on and on and on...I'm afraid the problem with Montreal is not the nimbys (although we have some seriously stupid people) it's lack of developers willin to risk large amounts of cash, the city's big time developers have left for Toronto and the west a long long time ago

mr.John, it's important to differentiate between the two issues you're discussing here:

One issue is the lack of construction projects, the slow economy and the unwillingness of developers to put forth new proposals.

The other issue is the opposition to construction projects -- once those projects are indeed proposed.

No one is suggesting that the lack of construction is NIMBY unrest. We're saying that NIMBY unrest is the reason why projects are limited in scope and size, and why projects that defy NIMBY's perceived "conventions" are fought tooth and nail.