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Old Posted Mar 8, 2009, 7:46 PM
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I loved this shot, the twin towers make their appearance
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its like playing sim city! awesome thread!
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Wow, I never realised that the twin towers were right by the river when first built!

They obviously reclaimed land form the river at a later date.
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IMO NY skyline looked best between 1930 and 1960....many of the 1960s and 1970s buildings are eyesores...but I like most of what's been built since the late 1970s. The design of Freedom Tower is not my favorite but does work better from some angles than others, and I like it much better some of the earlier proposals. The current design would look better without the spire and circular structure on top IMO.
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Diference between 1920s-1930s and 1950s-1970s building booms

Hi. The history of New York skyscraper have two building boom ages: the 1920-1930s and the boom started in the 1948 aproximately and early seventies.

In the first building boom, the financial boom that started after World War I, were many good for the city of New York, especially, the prosperity have benefit for construction an real state market. Financial district have been saturated on office space and many companies were many space offers in Midtown betwwen 34 to 59 streets.

Another factor for building boom were the 1916 Zoning Law. were established many restrictions on the building floor space on determinated high for the sun light lighted the street. The law established a weddin cake form in the building, but it gave no restrictions on high of the buildings. The sky is the limit, and in the late 20's and early 30s estimulated the race of World Tallest building when start on the race of Bank of Manhattan and Chrysler Buildings for suprassed the Woolworth Building. Chrysler win the race in 1933 with 77 story tower and spire, but it was lees one year later when 102 story 1250 feet Empire State Building crowned the tallest until 1972.

Majority of the buildings have build on the city between 1919 and 1939 have build on Midtown. The speculation on financial market and real state produced a bigger building boom. new building were build on art deco cannons were influenced of 1925 Paris Art Decorative Exposition. Over 1000 or more building between 20 to more of 100 stories, 50 of this over 40 stories high. but the stockmarket crash of '29 and the start of World War II, have been stopped the building activity. It was created of overoffer of office space. many buildings have been occuped until 1950. Many buildings of this golden age is Empire State Building, Chrysler Building, Hemsley Building, 40 Wall Street Tower (Bank of Manhattan), 120 Wall Street Building, and Rockefeller Center buildings (RCA, International, RKO), etcetera.

Well, the second gold age, is considerated not glorious, but is important on the impact on the urban landcape. The second building boom was started when the World War II end, in 1945. The office space created on 1920-1930s building boom were saturated when new office workers. The new prosperity that created for the american triumph on the war estimulated the industrial activity and financial market. Many people have abandonated city center to live in new suburban homes. Manhattan were a white collar city and result of a increassed the demand of office space.

First postwar buildings were build on Park and Madison Avenues on late forties. New building were build on 1916 zoning law cannons (wedding cake) but it was builds on the european International Style where philosophy of modern architecture were says: "lees is more".

But the boom started on 1947-1952 where international architects influenced of Le Corbusier designed and build the United Nations Headquarters where the cherry on the cake were the green glass curtain wall facade 39 story Secretariat Building and Assembly Building.

In 1952 Park Avenue chance it face on office building space with 22 story black green curtain wall facde of Lever House. After of 1955 to 1960 the face of the city started to change a modern face. It bennefit of Urban Renewal national program were search to chance to "dirty" face of city centers, but were attack of old landmarks protecctionist because many old beauty and more valuables buildings have been detroyed.

In 1958, the build of Seagram Building and 1959-1960 the construction of Time-Life Building on Sixth Avenue, Chase Manhattan Bank building on Financial District and Seagram's style Union Carbide Building, on Park Avenue were estimulated a city autorities a modificated 1916 zoning law. In 1961 the city expedite a new Zonning Law that stablishyed of construction of plaza on future building sites. This law produce, during the sixties many office buildin like a glass box with a sunken plazas.

Between 1960 to 1973 hundreds and hundreds of new towers (between office and residential building over 20 stories high) many of this over 40 stories were build on the city, the majority on Midtown. In 1963 when Pan Am Building were completed and start of demolition of old Penn Station. awake of love of many people for protect old landmarks and start of fight to save many old buildings (included Grand Central Station, particularity perjudicted for the Pan Am Building). For this reason where this building boom were more criticied.

Many of new modern towers were build in Park and Third Avenues and the Avenue of the Americas, where were beneficiated of plaza bonus of new 1961zoning law, that estimulated the new extension of Rockefeller Center. In 1967 building boom took Times Square area and Financial District

1950s-1970s Boom Buildings age were a real climax between 1966 and 1973. In this time many office buildings and complex were build on same time:

Buildings:
General Motors
Burlington House
ITT North American Building
One Astor Plaza
888 Seventh Avenue
810 Seventh Avenue
Grace Building
Solow Building
North America Plywood
One New York Plaza
Two New York Plaza
Uris (Paramount) Plaza
Gulf & Western Building
919 Seventh Avenue
345 Park Avenue
600 Third Avenue
JP Stevens Building

Skyscraper Complex
World Trade Center (Twin Towers)
Rockefeller Center's X, Y and Z Buildings (Exxon, McGraw-Hill, Celanesse)
55 Water Street

The Building boom have enter a crisis in 1970 wher a real state speculation market created a many overoffer office space: many buildings have empty and 1973-74 were a crisis and worsted in mid seventies cause a New York's fisco crash. A new boom were until 1980s.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2009, 11:52 PM
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In the building boom of 1950s-1970s towers no were crowned or spired. Until 1972, the crown return with 55 story One Astor Plaza on Times Square. It is very intersting check the building cause it is a pioner of postmodern style on New York. Check out of 1977 Citicorp Center, another 1970s crowned building.

One Astor Plaza (Der Scutt of Kahn & Jacobs. 1968-1972)


Citycorp Center (1977)
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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 8:26 PM
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Hi, I have new pictures about the city. I started in 1970:

The Burlington House Building on Sixth Avenue in fall 1970


The Twin Towers of the World Trade Center under construction on february 1971


The Twin Towers of the World Trade Center under construction on march 1971


The Twin Towers of the World Trade Center under construction on may 1971


Midtown Manhattan from New Jersey.May 1971


Aerial View of Manhattan Island looking north. July 1971


Lower Manhattan's financial district skyscrapers from Civic Center. September 1971


The Financial District from Hudson River. Fall 1971. Showing Twin Towers under construction.


Sunset reflect on Midtown Manhattan skyscrapers curtain walls. February 1972


88 Pine Street. Summer 1972


Aerial view of the World Trade Center tower just a few weeks before the official opening. March 1973


Radio City Music Hall and new Sixth Avenue skyscrapers from new Exxon Building Plaza. May 1973


Aerial view of the Empire State Building. May 1973


The new One Penn Plaza, just the north of the Madison Square Garden. May1973.


Aerial view of Midtown Manhatta. May 1973


Lower Manhattan and Brooklyn Bridge. May 1973


McGraw-Hill and Exxon Buildings on Sixth Avenue. May 1973


The New York Telephone Building on Sixth Avenue, near Bryant Park. May 1973


909 and 919 Third Abvenue Buildings. May 1973.


One Astor Plaza. May 1973


Uris (Paramount) Plaza. May 1973


Aerial View of Lower Manhattan. May 1973


55 Water Street Building. May 1973


SoonI back with more pics.
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That must have been an exciting time.
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wow, love the pics espesialy the earlyer ones. i dunno if its the black and white fuzzyness of the camaras or the buildings in their newly built freshness but the 30's look so exiting. the camaras even make the blocks of the 60's look better.
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lol the picture of madison garden looks like a sim city 4 screenshot with the taxi's
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Absolutely amazing in every way.

Do any of you have a modern photo of this building? It looked ahead for its time.

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Old Posted May 12, 2010, 8:52 PM
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I don't know what the name of the building is but it does look ahead of it's time with all of that glass. It's amazing to see how New York became transformed over the years. Great pics!


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Lever House, located at 390 Park Avenue designed by Gordon Bunshaft of Skidmore, Owings and Merrill. Built in 1952, It is the quintessential and seminal glass box International Style skyscraper. It is the pioneer curtain wall skyscraper in New York City.

The building was designated a landmark in 1982

the building was completely restored beginning in 1998 with a new curtain wall system that appears identical to the original.

lever house in 2007


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Old Posted Jul 27, 2010, 1:57 AM
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Great pics, love this city, there's nothing like it. Some of those 1970's box towers that encircle the perimeter of lower Manhattan are god awful ugly... they violate the neighborhood context without merit. Lever house is pure genius, IMO.
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Great pics, love this city, there's nothing like it. Some of those 1970's box towers that encircle the perimeter of lower Manhattan are god awful ugly... they violate the neighborhood context without merit. Lever house is pure genius, IMO.
I have to agree with you on this, I wish there would of been a tapered rule for buildings when it came to building out to the waterfront so that shorter buildings would of been along the water with the taller ones closer to the center. The buildings that were built along the east river were all just pure corporate crap.

I love the Lever Building, but when I got to see it in person, I was disappointed how much the other curtain wall buildings detracted from it. I was also more upset at the ugly post modern building that you can see in the picture that ruins the look of the Lever just by being next to it. Also, this is just another reason why I hate post modern architecture so much.
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Yeah, what happened to the setback zoning in place for the 20's - 40's? When did that fly out the window? Even with setbacks those "corporate crap buildings" would still be thoughtless hulks.

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Great pics, love this city, there's nothing like it. Some of those 1970's box towers that encircle the perimeter of lower Manhattan are god awful ugly... they violate the neighborhood context without merit. Lever house is pure genius, IMO.
you mean like 55 water st.?
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Yeah, what happened to the setback zoning in place for the 20's - 40's? When did that fly out the window? Even with setbacks those "corporate crap buildings" would still be thoughtless hulks.
it got overturned with the building of one chase Manhattan plaza
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Absolutely amazing in every way.

Do any of you have a modern photo of this building? It looked ahead for its time.

If you cut the bottom quarter from the picture you could mistake it for the present.
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wow what a thread!
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