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Old Posted: Jan 15, 2010, 10:02 PM
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And for the record, I fully support public funding for this type of project. Calgary is sorely lacking in the arts and culture scene and I think it is very much the realm of government (all 3 levels) to support. I am completely against any funding for a new arena for the Flames as there is already a perfectly viable facility. The Healthcare issue has more to do with mismanagment of funds by AHS (we already pay more for healthcare than all other provinces, per capita of course), and more funding is not the answer.

There is my $.02, now can we start talking about the project itself again?
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Old Posted: Jan 15, 2010, 10:09 PM
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I'm interested to see how they build this one. I wonder if it will be prefab like ACAD.
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Old Posted: Jan 15, 2010, 10:13 PM
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I have mixed feeling towards this project now, I like the building, I like what they're doing, but would prefer if it wasn't done with minimal public money. The construction isn't going to create that many jobs and once it's completed I can't see it being a huge source of employment.

How much of Cantos collection actually has any historical significance to Canada?

Top tourist attraction? Really? I can see it being a popular destination for field trips, but I don't think it's going to increase tourism to our fair city. I think after you've seen your 37th grand piano you pretty much have seen them all.


Health care doesn't need any more money, what health care needs is some competent management and to be accountable for the money they waste.
This place will be as much of a tourist place as any quality museum. Perhaps "top tourist attraction" is a bit of an overstatment, but this one is truly unique.

It's not all grand pianos either. It's a history of keyboard instruments - and includes many oddities and notables. Organs, harpsichords, electronic stuff, etc.

There's a fair amount that has significance to Canada - e.g. all the stuff from the Canadian Counrty Music Hall of Fame that they picked up last year.
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Old Posted: Jan 15, 2010, 11:39 PM
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Shows how much attention I actually pay. I didn't realize this thing was even going to *have* a museum. I thought it was just a performing arts centre.
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Old Posted: Jan 16, 2010, 12:00 AM
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Are you guys still arguing about this? Korzym, you don't support it, but it's getting built, if you don't like it write your Alderman, MLA or MP and complain, please don't fill this thread with your banter.
Don't believe he hasn't. Although we haven't seen him post about his latest correspondence with one of his representatives yet, so maybe he hasn't.

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Everyone else, stop replying to his posts and he will stop making them. This thread is now ridiculous!
I don't think he will. There's only one way for it to stop for sure, and it should have happened a long time ago.
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Old Posted: Jan 16, 2010, 1:59 AM
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Apparently all cultural museums display only visual art to you? I guess the Cantos Music Foundation is just another fancy place for rich people to admire expensive things. Forget the radio station, or the teaching space, or the performance space, or the live music venue. It's just a place for people to look at "pretty things"

Damn you are a caricature of a bad stereotype...


While you're at it korzym why don't you suggest we all live in small farm houses, and use outhouses like they did in the wild west until this healthcare problem is completely fixed. Afterall, we can't enjoy any luxuries until this situation is remedied. Maybe we can live like the Hutterites and only worry about the bare essentials of existence. Nevermind ringroads, or giant malls in Balzac, or fucking SUV's and pickup trucks.

BTW does your truck happen to have balls hanging from it's hitch?
Houses, that you refer to, are built privately

You really are beating the bush, you can't argue for one minute the arts are more worthy of tax payer money, than essential services
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Old Posted: Jan 16, 2010, 2:01 AM
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You are just absolutley hilarious.

Building things = jobs. This is generally what happens during a recession. the govenment likes to build when the prices are more reasonable. It happend in the 80's and now it is happening again. Is there a perfect way to do things or, maybe you are claiming to be the expert?

The health care cuts are a result of the government's overspending on building a massive hospital in the south and adding 3 other MASSIVE, MASSIVE, MASSIVE additions to the existing hospitals right in the middle of some of the highest construction costs ever seen in history!! It will all even itself out.

You really need to peel yourself off of the couch and step outside of you little bubble and enjoy our beautiful city.
Why not leave that money in the pockets of tax payers and they will allocate it to what's most useful to them? This would create jobs too..ones that are needed and sustainable
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Nice. Can't wait to see it built. Will be a boon for Calgary.
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Old Posted: Jan 16, 2010, 3:10 AM
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Korzym, you've made your point now move on. This is not the place to espouse your personal agendas here. If I find another trap being set for others to reply to, it will be promptly be deleted from this thread. Enough is enough.
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I'm interested to see how they build this one. I wonder if it will be prefab like ACAD.
Could you expound upon this? Was ACAD built from pre-fab components? Why do you think Cantos might be?
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Old Posted: Jan 17, 2010, 8:55 PM
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Yeah ACAD was built in pre-fabricated components trucked in from somewhere in the States (mostly concrete modules). I'm sure the brick and stuff was done on site, but all the ceilings and some walls have a uniform indented concrete shape (sort of like honeycomb). Anyways, the reason I wonder if this will be similar is that it reminds me alot of ACAD in the interior shots. Hopefully it won't be as depressing though.
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Old Posted: Jan 17, 2010, 8:56 PM
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Korzym, you've made your point now move on. This is not the place to espouse your personal agendas here. If I find another trap being set for others to reply to, it will be promptly be deleted from this thread. Enough is enough.
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Old Posted: Jan 18, 2010, 5:31 PM
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I'm interested to see how they build this one. I wonder if it will be prefab like ACAD.
It will likely be too complex to do as pre-fab, I'm guessing it will be steel frame construction as that tends to be the most versatile. Who is the local Architect? maybe I'll see if I have any friends at that firm.
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It will likely be too complex to do as pre-fab, I'm guessing it will be steel frame construction as that tends to be the most versatile. Who is the local Architect? maybe I'll see if I have any friends at that firm.
BKDI. Good thing is that they have now the funding from the city (I think $2.5 million) out of the $25 million that will allow them to advance to detailed design.
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Old Posted: Jan 18, 2010, 5:51 PM
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Don't know anyone at BKDI, not that I can think of. Good to hear about the funding, I look forward to seeing this project, even if it wasn't my favourite it is still a great project and should be a good catalyst for the area.
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Old Posted: Jan 18, 2010, 7:12 PM
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Yeah, as disappointed as I was with who was chosen I'm still excited for this one to go ahead.

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Old Posted: Jan 22, 2010, 4:49 PM
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They have a rendering of the new King Eddie / Cantos project in MARK magazine. Interesting to see it up there with so many other insane, future projects around the world.
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I read on Druh Farrell's twitter that East Village received unanimous support for funding the Cantos from council yesterday.

Also, interesting that discussions are taking place about linking downtown to East Village. DF mentions:

"Excellent workshop this AM w/ Diamond Schmitt/O2 Arch redesigning/linking Muni plaza & building, Epcor, East Village & Olympic Plaza. "
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