Should there be a High Speed Rail link from Calgary to Edmonton? - Page 42

Xelebes · #**821** Posted: **Nov 26, 2011, 11:43 PM**

Look, if you want to engage in an open mockery of the members here and on C2E, this is not the place for it. Simply that. Choose your battles.

jlousa · #**822** Posted: **Nov 27, 2011, 2:24 AM**

As an outsider I find the airport argument interesting. Now based on my European experience most of the train stations are located downtown. This is so to improve comparative travel times from city centres via flying. I think if the plan is the same for Edm-Cal that would alleviate some of the fears of Edm's airport losing traffic to Calgary.
It's not like most people would travel downtown with luggage to catch a train, end up in downtown Calgary with said luggage and have to still get out to the airport. Now if the trains stations where both out by the airport it would be a more valid concern but that won't be the case.

feepa · #**823** Posted: **Nov 27, 2011, 4:52 AM**

HSR would definitely be the final nail in the coffin for Edmonton city center airport that PW so passionately likes... anything to funnel traffic through YYC and the downfall of YEG is where you'll find PW posting about. Good grief

Policy Wonk · #**824** Posted: **Nov 27, 2011, 6:21 AM**

What?

The only service I actively argued for at YXD was FBO based Part 703 and 704 service which is capped at 19 passengers (Metroliner, Twin Otter, Beech 1900 etc) and was of no detriment to YEG what-so-ever.

I think the people who drive to YYC from Edmonton are insane.

But the same administrative paranoia that threatens YXD will also sink any HSR proposal. Despite strange claims by EIA of a "back-door hub" nobody was climbing off Quikair in Calgary behind the Deerfoot Walmart so they could take a taxi to the passenger terminal, a great distance away and get there in time to board another flight to some far flung destination. Just as nobody would take HSR to downtown Calgary and trek up to YYC - especially given how expensive fares are likely to be. But there mere fact it is possible will be enough to unleash the same paranoid forces against HSR.

Then there is this passage in the report by Alberta Infrastructure and Transportation:

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Regarding the Air service, the HSR mode may provide in future access to the airports YYC and YEG. Under the station plan being considered in this study, HSR is not planned to access either international airport. However, a future suburban Calgary HSR station will likely be located in closer proximity to an airport than a suburban station in Edmonton.

If this force can be ushered to kill this white elephant that is just great.

MalcolmTucker · #**825** Posted: **Nov 27, 2011, 8:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by jlousa

As an outsider I find the airport argument interesting. Now based on my European experience most of the train stations are located downtown. This is so to improve comparative travel times from city centres via flying. I think if the plan is the same for Edm-Cal that would alleviate some of the fears of Edm's airport losing traffic to Calgary.
It's not like most people would travel downtown with luggage to catch a train, end up in downtown Calgary with said luggage and have to still get out to the airport. Now if the trains stations where both out by the airport it would be a more valid concern but that won't be the case.

All of the studies have stops at the Calgary Airport, and most say there will be one at Edmonton's, or by the Henday.

albertantraingeek · #**826** Posted: **Nov 28, 2011, 2:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by Policy Wonk

If this force can be ushered to kill this white elephant that is just great.

White Elephants are in the eye of the beholder.

hqcan · #**827** Posted: **Dec 25, 2011, 12:58 AM**

This is definitely an article of note for this topic. I don't think the Redford government will stoke this fire until after they have secured a new government.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...613/story.html

albertantraingeek · #**828** Posted: **Dec 27, 2011, 8:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by hqcan

This is definitely an article of note for this topic. I don't think the Redford government will stoke this fire until after they have secured a new government.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...613/story.html

Good article, but people in the comments... Just... wow. If people keep arguing like they are in the comments then NOTHING is going to get done, be it HSR or LRT.

rapid_business · #**829** Posted: **Dec 27, 2011, 4:37 PM**

Comments section on newspapers/media websites are the lowest common denominator of banter and attract the least sane and level headed people out of the woodwork. If there was a way to turn off the comments section for every news-related website I visit, I would in a heartbeat.

snowboarder1019 · #**830** Posted: **Feb 16, 2012, 1:47 AM**

[QUOTE=Bassic Lab;3277909]Believe me, I wasn't suggesting Lethbridge should be on a HSR route, only that Fort Mac is an even worse idea. There is no where on earth where any one would consider biulding a High Speed train 400 Km to go to a city of 50 000 people. 300 km between two cities of a million plus has happened, but 50 000 is just laughable.QUOTE]

Red arrow / Greyhound busses are always packed. Fort Mcmurray is building an airport terminal to support 1,5 million people per year and is one of the busiest airports in canada for the area it serves of 100k people. HSR would be a good idea especially when Ft. Mcmurray gets some crown land and they build houses the population will jump.