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Old Posted Feb 19, 2012, 4:06 AM
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Lookout Mountain Part 2: Finding The Old Roads

This Lookout Mountain installment will be fairly short. I'm going to post a few images showing the Inn from a distance, and the roads leading up to it.

Finding the exact location of the Inn was really tricky -- I finally figured it out, and will post then and nows in my next installment. But identifying these old roads leading up to the Inn had been even harder. I'm close now, but not quite there yet.

So, here is a selection of photos showing the approaches to the Inn. I've identified some, but am still working on others. Tomorrow I'm heading out there with a friend whose camera skills far exceed mine to get some "now" versions of some of these images and try to identify the roads that are still eluding me. But in the meantime, I'm going to go ahead and post the old versions -- partly to keep my narrative going, but also as a puzzle and a challenge. If anyone out there can tell me where any of these photos were taken from, or name any of these roads, I will be very impressed!

I have to tell you that finding period maps of this area has been nearly impossible. I spent hours (days?) searching for old L.A. maps on the web, and found almost nothing. I also spent an afternoon downtown at the Central Library -- the head of their historical map department was very helpful and tried his best. He looked for a couple of hours, and pulled all sorts of old auto club maps, county maps, plat maps, city atlases -- but none of them, and I mean NONE, showed the back roads of Laurel Canyon. There were definitely several long roads that meandered around the hills, and at least two that led up to the Inn, but I still haven't seen any of them on any map.

One reason is that Laurel Canyon hadn't yet been annexed to the city, so its roads are missing from nearly all city maps of the day. All the maps of that area show Laurel Canyon Blvd., and a few show the important branch roads like Lookout Mountain Ave., Stanley Hills Drive, Wonderland Ave., and Kirkwood. But none of those roads reach the summit -- in fact they hardly even come close to it.

So here, to whet your appetite, is my little collection. See if you can name any of these locations or streets, or even find the same road in any two images. If no one responds it won't hurt my feelings, because I know how hard this is. (I'm afraid that ethereal_reality is partly disqualified, because I already spilled the beans about a couple of these roads in an email to him.)

Tomorrow, barring bad weather, I'll head out and try to bag some modern pics of these locations. I'll post the results and will name as many of these roads as I can.



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Part of an old display ad (complete image below)



http://search.proquest.com/hnplatime...ccountid=11124

Note the text in the ad above:

"The five winding roads that have been cut through the tract are still un-named. A cash prize of $20 each will be awarded for the best names suggested for these streets. Visit the tract, see these streets and drop your list of names in the box at the tract office..."

TO BE CONTINUED

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Old Posted Feb 19, 2012, 1:04 PM
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1935: An appropriately stylish delivery truck for Bullock's. It might, however, have been a case of style over function. I can understand there being no door for frequent ins-and-outs in sunny L.A., but the small opening looks mighty uncomfortable for getting in and out quickly. Managing not to fall out of the seat on turns must also have been tricky, not to mention seeing out of the low windshield. A commenter to the thread on which I found this picture had this interesting note: "I read somewhere that, during the Depression, Bullock's had their drivers drive empty delivery vans around Los Angeles to give the illusion of robust sales and successful operations, when in reality, business was terrible."
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Lookout Mountain Part 2: Finding The Old Roads

David,

I never knew this hotel existed and I had fun rattling around on Google Maps trying to identify the various streets and roads. While I was unable to effect any positive ID's I am going to hazard a guess the Double Bow Knot Boulevard is now part of the Betty B. Dearing Trail as seen on Google Maps satellite view north of Mulholland Drive between Laurel Pass and Ardenwood Road.

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Collier School of Mind Science 5017 Sunset Boulevard, circa 1940.


http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4780392


Notice the side entrance on the left has a separate address....5017 1/2.

The small sign says:

"Rev. Hugh Christopher, Mental Science, Practitioner and Teacher"
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Did you realize this photograph was taken by Ansel Adams?

"Around 1939, Ansel Adams was commissioned by Fortune magazine to photograph a series of images for an article covering the aviation history of the Los Angeles area. For the project, Adams took 217 photographs showing everyday life, businesses, street scenes, aerospace employees, and a variety of other subjects, but when the article, "City of Angels," appeared in the March 1941 issue, only a few of the images were included. In the early 1960s, approximately 20 years later, Adams rediscovered all of the photographs among papers at his home in Carmel, and sent a letter of inquiry to the Los Angeles Public Library, asking if the institution would be interested in receiving the collection as a donation. In his letter, Adams expressed that, "the weather was bad over a rather long period and none of the pictures were very good" and "if they have no value whatsoever, please dispose of them in the incenerator [sic]." He went on to write that "I would imagine that they represent about $100.00 minimum value." In response, the Los Angeles Public Library gladly accepted the gift of 135 contact prints and 217 negatives, and the staff concluded that a fair value for the collection would be $150.00. "

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Collier School of Mind Science 5017 Sunset Boulevard, circa 1940.


http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4780392


Notice the side entrance on the left has a separate address....5017 1/2.

The small sign says:

"Rev. Hugh Christopher, Mental Science, Practitioner and Teacher"
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Here is another Ansel Adams photograph:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085728.jpg Circa 1940.

"Exterior view of Westjoy Dance Studios, consisting of Westjoy Dance Studio (8844 Wilshire Blvd.) and Nancy White Studio (8846 Wilshire Blvd.), located in Beverly Hills. A classic "Wilshire Lantern" street light is seen directly outside the building. While still standing, the building at 8844 has been greatly remodeled."


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Today. The base of the streetlight still exists!
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While we're on Ansel Adams, here is another of his photographs:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085731.jpg

"Street view of Beacon Laundry, a laundry and dry cleaning business located at 9134 Wilshire Boulevard in Beverly Hills. This structure, attached to a small strip mall (left), includes an Art Deco-style tower."

Circa 1940.
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The Brown Derby by Ansel Adams:
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics48/00058528.jpg

"The Brown Derby had four locations: Beverly Hills, Los Feliz, Hollywood, and Wilshire Boulevard. The first Brown Derby Restaurant, shown here, was built in 1926 and is generally referred to as the "Wilshire Brown Derby." Designed in part by J.R. Davidson, it measured 28 feet in diameter and 17 1/2 feet in height and was the only one of the four restaurant buildings that resembled a bowler hat. It was first located at 3427 Wilshire Boulevard, across the street from the Ambassador Hotel, but was later moved one block over to 3347 Wilshire Boulevard. In 1975, it was closed and sold. After the restaurant was demolished in 1980, the shell of the hat-shaped dome was restored, painted orange, and incorporated into the design of the Brown Derby Plaza, a strip mall at 3377 Wilshire Boulevard."

Circa 1940.
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Some more of Ansel Adams work:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085803.jpg

"View of a section of San Vicente Boulevard, showing some Art Deco buildings. In the background is the Beverly Tower, which is a service station, next to that, in the center of the image, is a little eatery. A painted wooden sign on the left advertises horseback riding lessons."

Circa 1940.
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Ansel Adams again:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085760.jpg

"Corner view of an Art Deco style automobile service and maintenance center, which occupies the business spaces between 8672 and 8680 on Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles. Roy Frankson's Motor Glide Mart, an authorized scooter dealer in Los Angeles, is located in the middle of the center, at the base of the large twin towers sign. The center, which is no longer standing, offers tires, general repair, car washes, and a variety of other automotive services."

Circa 1940.

There are more photos of the Motor Glide Mart later on.
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Some more of Mr. Adams fine work:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085733.jpg

"Looking west from the south side of the 6600 block of Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood. There is a fluoroscope business, where a $2 complete x-ray fluroscopic [sic] examination lets you "see your own organs with your own eyes" and the House of Westmore (6638 Sunset Boulevard), a beauty salon owned by the Westmore family of makeup fame. The sign for Wolf's Market can be seen in the background."

Circa 1940.
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The following have appeared here before but were not credited to Ansel Adams:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085758.jpg

and

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085759.jpg

Circa 1940.
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Court Flight

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http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085774.jpg

"Opened on September 24, 1905, the Court Flight was built by Attorney R. E. Blackburn of the McCarthy real estate firm and Samuel G Vandegrift, to serve the wealthy residents of Bunker Hill. The line was entirely double tracked, using a pair of thirty-inch gauge counterbalanced cars, and ran for a distance of 180 feet up a 42 per cent grade between Broadway and Court Streets, in the middle of the block between Temple and First Streets. A fire on October 20, 1943 damaged the line and put it out of commission."

Circa 1940.
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Ansel Adams:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085626.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085625.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085627.jpg

"Exterior view of the Earl Carroll Theatre, located at 6230 Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood. Plaques affixed to the building reveal signatures from some of the top performers of the day; from left to right, William Powell, Norma Shearer, Jimmy Stewart, Carole Lombard, Gary Cooper, Bette Davis, Ronald Colman, Shirley Temple, and Earl Carroll. "

Circa 1940.
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Panoramas

More Ansel:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085739.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085740.jpg

"Panoramic view looking north towards Glendale from Griffith Park. Downtown Glendale is on the right, Burbank on the left, the Verdugo Mountains are on the left, and San Gabriel Mountains are present in the background."

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More of Mr. Adams work:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085734.jpg

"Exterior view of the photography studio owned by John E. Reed, located at 6633 Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood. On the lawn, a large photograph of entertainer Jimmy Durante is on display and a sign advertises, "Theatrical Photography special...12 8x10 prints for $9.50." The eastern side of Blessed Sacrament Church is visible on the left."

Circa 1940.
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circa 1940

Life at the Olympic Trailer Camp by Ansel Adams:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085628.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068548.jpg

"Residents of space 23 at the Olympic Trailer Court, located at 2121 Bundy Drive in Santa Monica, relax and play with their dog outside of their trailer."

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085639.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085641.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085643.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085629.jpg

"At the Olympic Trailer Court, located at 2121 Bundy Drive in Santa Monica, trailers are parked near one another and close to power poles, from which electricity can be pulled for residents. Large wooden crates, once used to hold airplane engines, have been set up near some of the trailers."



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Ansel Adams and the May Company:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085743.jpg

"Intersection of Wilshire Boulevard (foreground) and Fairfax Avenue, facing the distinctive corner gold tower of the Streamline Moderne May Co. department store. Designed by Albert C. Martin and Samuel A. Marx, the store was built shortly before this photograph was taken."

Circa 1940.
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Ansel Adams and an apartment building:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085654.jpg

"Street view of a large residential building known as the Princess Apartment-Hotel, located at 529 California Street. A sign indicates that there are "outside double apartments with private baths and steam heat" for $5.00 a week and up. The Classical Revival structure, which was demolished when the 101 Freeway was constructed, was named as the Queen by oil baroness Emma Summers, a onetime owner of the home. "

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