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As has be said before, 140 years for a Cathedral is bloody fast considering build times of the past! When completed this Cathedral will actually be completed faster then virtually all others before it. There is a reason why don't HAVE Cathedrals like this anymore you know...

You kids these days have no patience!
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Because many of Gaudi's original works were lost, how much of the newly constructed building is actually adhering to Gaudi's original work or has it simply been improvised?

As I understand it, the Passion Facade deviates greatly from Gaudi's work. As well as much of the newly constructed pillars are made of concrete where as the original were made out of stone.
Some of the design has already changed, if you look at some of the detailed icons on the newer facades, they look different than what Gaudi's do. Honestly, I think this is great, since you can see the evolution of the building as it is built. The master plan and major details are built according to Gaudi's ideas (of which we have more than enough information to complete it), while the smaller intricacies have to be figured out by contemporary architects.

This is not anything new when it comes to building grand structures. Many of the Italian Cathedrals and churches had multiple architects working on them, and often changing the design to match their aesthetic values. A great example of this is St. Peter's in the Vatican. The building took a very long time to complete, and had many head architects. Michelangelo's dome was actually the third iteration of a dome for it. If you look closely, you can actually see the "hand" of all the different people who designed it.

We have without a doubt grown accustomed to finishing grand projects within decades, but for most of history, huge projects like these would often span centuries to be finished.
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From what I understand, 140 years is a fairly quick completion time by European cathedral standards. What makes them so powerful is that they are not the singular vision of one man but the collective vision of a society. Hell, Chartres, Notre-Dame, etc were all built pretty much without the aid of plans on paper as we know them.
No kidding.. Hell, the Milan Cathedral started construction in the 1300's and was only completed in 1965!
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BAH!
As has be said before, 140 years for a Cathedral is bloody fast considering build times of the past! When completed this Cathedral will actually be completed faster then virtually all others before it. There is a reason why don't HAVE Cathedrals like this anymore you know...

You kids these days have no patience!
This. In fact there are a great number of forever uncompleted Cathedrals in Europe.
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This. In fact there are a great number of forever uncompleted Cathedrals in Europe.
Even in North America.. The Cathedral of St. John the Divine in New York started in 1892 and is still under construction.
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With newfound modeling capabilities and insight into Antoni Gaudí’s vision, the chief architect of the Basílica de la Sagrada Família aims to complete the long-stalled project by 2026.

By Ian Volner

As construction deadlines go, 130 years certainly seems like a generous allowance. But in cathedral years, that’s almost a drop in the bucket. After all, Germany’s Cologne Cathedral broke ground in 1248 and wrapped up centuries later in 1880. The still-rising Cathedral Church of Saint John the Divine in Manhattan is already 121 years old, with no completion date in sight. Other structures, such as England’s Coventry Cathedral, were generations in the making, only to be destroyed by war, fire, or structural failure and then repaired or built anew. From the nave to the transept to the last finial of the westwork, creating a church fit for a bishop entails a long-term commitment.

The fact, then, that the Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família in Barcelona, Spain, first got underway 13 decades ago would be almost unremarkable but for the particular character of the basilica itself, and of the man who designed it. The massive church—technically not a cathedral by Catholic law, the official seat or cathedra of the bishop being the nearby Catedral de la Santa Creu—is unlike any other house of worship in the world with its well-known, spiky, fanciful, mud-castle-like ensemble of swirling towers and twisting columns. Its architect, Catalan-born Antoni Gaudí, was among the giants of European architecture and a major transitional figure at the moment when 19th-century Beaux-Arts historicism was giving way to 20th-century Modernism. Sagrada Família is the fullest expression of his highly idiosyncratic vision.

Since its construction was first halted in 1936 amidst the tumult of the Spanish Civil War, the basilica’s state of incompletion has become part and parcel of its very identity: The cranes, rubble, and half-finished sculptural friezes around the site seem like permanent fixtures of the streetscape. Funding holdups, strikes, and problems deciphering Gaudí’s intentions have led to endless delays since construction resumed in 1939. Many have simply come to assume it will never be done. Toni García, a Barcelona native and culture writer for Spanish newspaper El País, joked that the state of affairs has entered the local patois: “When you want to say, ‘Oh, that’ll never happen,’ you say, ‘Sure—it’ll happen when Sagrada Família is finished.’ ”




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