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There isn't enough room to elevate Barbur North of Burlingame. And you can't build an elevated rail line on top of a crumbling highway bridge. It'll have to be underground or along a hillside cut there.

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So The Candle Light is being torn down? I didn't know this.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2012, 10:11 PM
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Google streetview inside the Candlelight:

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Whoa. Sidewalk streetviews into restaurants and bars? Wow!
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The best part about this article is the lone actually sane comment at the end.

Anti-MAX measure certified for ballot
TriMet disputes meaning for vote

By Jim Redden

The Portland Tribune, Mar 15, 2012 (1 Reader comment)

The Clackamas County anti-light rail initiative has qualified for the Sept. 18 special ballot, setting up a potentially bruising fight between MAX opponents, TriMet and the Clackamas County Commission.

Petition supporters says the measure requires a public vote on the county's $25 million commitment to the $1.5 billion Portland-to-Milwaukie Light Rail Line project. TriMet says the measure only applies to future rail projects because the county has already signed a legally-binding agreement to provide the money. The commission has not actually identified the source of the money or sent the money to TriMet, however.

Petition co-sponsor Jim Knapp says there will be "hell to pay" if the commission ignores the will of the voters. Knapp is also running for the commission, along with a number of other candidates opposed to the project.

On Thursday, county election officials certified 9,728 valid voter signatures on the petitions. Organizers needed 9,378 valid signatures and submitted 11,855 petition signatures on March 5.

Work on the project has already started in Portland. Among other things, a new bridge to carry the MAX line from downtown to inner east Portland is currently being built over the Willamette River.

The Federal Transit Administration has pledged to pay 50 percent of the project cost. The rest is promised by the State of Oregon, Metro, TriMet, Clackamas County, the City of Portland and the City of Milwaukie. TriMet and the FTA have not yet signed the Full Funding Agreement commiting the federal funds, however. That is expected to happen in coming weeks.

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Re: Anti-MAX measure certified for ballot

It's really time for Clackamas County to get on board with light rail and mass transit--McLoughlin Blvd. is a joke.

Believe me, sitting on MAX, reading your newspaper, drinking your coffee, watching the seasons change throughout the year or reading a book is MUCH better than sitting in traffic, burning up gas and money.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2012, 12:52 AM
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Portland-Milwaukie MAX bridge update 3-17-2018:

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That picture is so good I can't imagine how much better it would be without the I-5 bridge.
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Light rail support mixed in survey

The older you are and the longer you’ve lived in Clackamas County, the less likely you are to have a favorable attitude toward county governance.
That was one of the findings from a new poll that asked 400 Clackamas County residents how they felt about their county government.

The poll by DHM Research was done between Feb. 23 and 27 for $25,000.
Among its findings, there was disagreement about the Clackamas County’s general direction, with 46 percent saying things in the county are headed in the right direction, while 29 percent said the county was going in the wrong direction.

etc, etc, article is followed with usual foaming at the mouth comments and a couple of reasonable ones.
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Petitions filed in four westside cities seek vote on rail funds

Groups in Tigard, Tualatin, King City and Sherwood want to put issue on September ballot

Pamplin Media Group, Mar 23, 2012

Four initiative petitions were filed Friday in Tigard, Tualatin, King City and Sherwood that could, if approved, force a public vote on financing for any new rail systems in those suburban cities.

The petitions are similar to two filed in Clackamas County and Milwaukie that could require county officials to back off providing funding for a new $1.49 billion light-rail system there.

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Old Posted Mar 25, 2012, 7:41 PM
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It's so sad to see these people consistently vote against their own self-interest. Just like in Vancouver in the 90's. With gas prices the way they are, you'd think that people would be eager to embrace more transit options, not stymie their development.

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I wish we could rethink some of our light rail priorities. If other counties and cities don't want MAX... fine. Let's use the dollars to expand the streetcar instead. We really should be connecting more of our own Portland neighborhoods.
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[QUOTE]If other counties and cities don't want MAX... fine. Let's use the dollars to expand the streetcar instead. We really should be connecting more of our own Portland neighborhoods./QUOTE]

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TriMet promises new $4.3 million MAX trains will be roomier inside, even if outside looks the same
Published: Friday, April 06, 2012, 4:58 PM Updated: Friday, April 06, 2012, 5:01 PM
By Joseph Rose, The Oregonian

TriMet riders, how are those newer, sleeker MAX trains working for you?

I’m among those who have had plenty of complaints. In 2009, shortly after the Type 4 trains debuted, I wrote about TriMet’s apparent “war on legs.” My measuring-tape tests showed the leg room on the newer models more suited for Hobbits than daily job trekkers.

So, I gave off an audible groan when I read today that TriMet is planning to spend $73.8 million on 18 “Type 5” trains from Siemens using the exact same body design as the Type 4s.

I wasn’t alone. On Twitter, Portland Afoot blogger Michael Anderson tweeted, "Boo hiss.” TriMet Diaries blogger Jeff "Dr. Jeff" Guardalabene retweeted an open "Dear Type 4" letter from December, calling the train "a rolling body cramp, an affront to basic human needs."

But even though the outside of the future trains will come from the same mold, the interior is expected to be roomier. “We’re taking lessons from the Type 4 and applying it to the Type 5,” said TriMet spokeswoman Mary Fetsch. “We will make suggestions on what to change, from the configuration of the operator’s cabin to general rider areas.”

Phew! Good news, especially when you consider that some seats on the Type 4 partially butt up against door frames, giving one leg 8 inches to move and the other a tortuous 4 inches. Huh?

Siemens was one of three companies to bid on the contract, which is expected to be awarded as part of a resolution going before the board this month resolution going before the TriMet board this month (PDF).

The 18 trains are being paid for through the Portland-Milwaukie Light Rail line’s $1.5 billion capital budget.

The federal government is expected to sign off on a final agreement to fund half of the 7.3-mile Orange Line, with TriMet and local governments set to cover the other half. Of course, in Clackamas County, an initiative requiring Clackamas County voter approval before the county pays $25 million to TriMet for the project is on the fall ballot.

According to the purchase resolution, ranked the three companies that submitted bids on a “price score” formula “based on the proposed base contract price plus a weighted price for options.”


Siemen’s proposal, according to the document, received the highest score -- largely because it was $8 million below the project engineer’s estimate. “This Resolution authorizes TriMet to execute a contract with Siemens for the base price amount of $73.8 million, and to execute contract modifications for contingency costs in an amount not to exceed $6.4 million,” the document reads.

A “Buy America” audit reportedly concluded that the Siemens proposal complied with the Federal Transit Administration’s requirements, containing 77 percent American-made components by cost, exceeding the 60 percent minimum required.

A Stadler proposal, by contrast, offered a little more than 70 percent American-made content, while train-maker CAF offered only to exceed the required 60-percent minimum.

The transit geeks over at the Portland Transport blog have more on how contract works, while alluding to their April Fools light-rail joke. (I told you they were geeks.)

The Orange Line is scheduled to open in September 2015. TriMet is currently building a $135 million bridge over the Willamette River for the line. Portlanders should see the bridge’s towers begin to emerge from the water in May.

-- Joseph Rose, Twitter: pdxcommute


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Old Posted Apr 14, 2012, 4:18 PM
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A few renderings, from TriMet's site. More here.

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More here.
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2012, 3:19 AM
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the people in oak grove are going to have to walk along ways to get to the max
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2012, 3:49 PM
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^just curious, why do you say a long way? Oak Grove is only 2 square miles, it can't be that far...
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