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Old Posted Apr 5, 2012, 10:56 PM
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Monumental Regional Plan for Southern California Gets Final Approval

Monumental Regional Plan for Southern California Gets Final Approval


4/4/12

By Amanda Eaken



Read More: http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/ae...rnia_make.html

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This afternoon the Southern California Association of Governments unanimously adopted a $524 billion transit plan designed to heavily invest in projects to provide greater mobility choices to Los Angeles and Southern California residents and visitors. The plan will reduce harmful air pollution, provide a variety of choices to move around the region without a vehicle, save people money and produce thousands of local, good-paying jobs.

- While Washington politicians continue to point fingers about high gas prices, local leaders in Los Angeles have actually done something about long commutes. SCAG has approved a plan that will save people money, shorten their commutes and create a cleaner environment. Investing in transit will put millions of people back to work on local projects that benefit anyone who chooses to trade gas prices for a metro card.

That new approach is what this plan attempts to deliver, thanks to requirements under California’s SB 375, passed in 2008. A couple highlights. This plan:

• Increases funding for biking and walking by over 350% from $1.8 to $6.7 billion;

• Spends $246 billion—nearly half the plan’s total revenue-- on public transportation;

• Reduces congestion 24% per capita despite adding 4 million residents;

• Brings 12 key transit expansion projects to Los Angeles in the next 10 years under Mayor Villaraigosa’s 30-10 plan;

• Creates 60% more housing near transit than is currently available;

• Creates 4.2 million jobs in the region, 87% of all jobs will be ½ mile from transit;

• Achieves a 24 % reduction in pollution-caused respiratory problems, resulting in $1.5 billion per year in health care savings’ and;

• Saves over 400 square miles of open space--more than a third the size of Yosemite--from development by shifting to a more walkable land use pattern for the region.

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Does this plan extend HSR into LA?
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Looks like it's a local plan between surrounding jurisdictions.
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Wow! I am not impressed. Taxpayers approved funding in a referendum in 2008, it takes the local politicians 4 years, that's right until 2012, to even arrive at a plan to spend that money.

And people wonder why it takes so long to get any infrastructure built?
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How are they paying for this?
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Wow! I am not impressed. Taxpayers approved funding in a referendum in 2008, it takes the local politicians 4 years, that's right until 2012, to even arrive at a plan to spend that money.

And people wonder why it takes so long to get any infrastructure built?
Measure R was tied to a specific list of projects that were decided upon before the public ever voted, limited to the boundaries of Los Angeles County.

This is a more over-arching plan that includes all of Southern California and tackles land use, environmental, and other issues - not just transportation. No need to be critical.
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Wow! I am not impressed. Taxpayers approved funding in a referendum in 2008, it takes the local politicians 4 years, that's right until 2012, to even arrive at a plan to spend that money.

And people wonder why it takes so long to get any infrastructure built?
you are mixing up Measure R with this report. Numerous MEasure R projects are already under construction. Gold Line foothill extension, Expo Line phase 2, BRT extension in the valley and starting in the next calendar year are the Crenshaw LRT and the Downtown Connector. Add in all the freeway improvements, bike and pedestrian projects and you can see that Measure R is already making huge impacts in LA County.
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Wow, I'm really surprised at the reaction to this. SCAG's Regional Transportation Plan/Sustainable Communities Strategy is quite revolutionary for the region in regards to planning for transportation and land use in a unified manner. This is exactly how the LA region and the state as a whole (hell, anywhere for that matter) should be planning to begin with.

Also, this plan lays out where funds for transportation monies from the feds will be directed. This plan is part of the 4 year cycle for RTP's that every MPO across the country must go through for federal transportation funding, with the added mandate of the SCS through the passage of SB 375 in California.

SnyderBock - this plan does rely on HSR to come to some of the figures and assumptions for proximity to transit regarding jobs and residents, but there are many other projects included in those conclusions as well.
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We're talking about an actual project. It seems more like a list prioritizing the needs of the city.
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We're talking about an actual project. It seems more like a list prioritizing the needs of the city.
It's pretty vague, isn't it? I still can't help but feel a little excitement about the implementation of real solutions.

Seriously, though - "good-paying jobs"? Really? What school did the writer attend? The Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good?
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$524 billion.

Right.

Now maybe if the Plan can be viewed like a response to a force 8.0 earthquake in the LA Basin created Plan, where instead of an earthquake, we are talking about a Weimar Republic inflationary depression, this is a good thing (which just might happen).

Otherwise, this still gives the private property owners an interface with local politicans to push their pet redevelopment projects, which in the real US world, is the only way anything other than expanding freeways is ever built with public money. This just may be a shrewd political move.
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Courageous and costly to develop commuter rail and rail transit in the LA region, given its huge surface area, low density, and reliance on cars and freeways.

I often thought it couldn't be done in Southern California, but praiseworthy to see them forging ahead with anything so daunting, ambitious, and costly.

Here in Vancouver, our RRT system (still being built onto) is a great success with daily ridership approaching that of Philadelphia, in a city of only 2.3m metro; not only through engineering, but because natural geographic constraints on the city force it to be relatively compact, thereby often very dense in large nodes.

Perhaps "city centres" or "town centres" will develop in the LA region, too, thereby justifying, and enhancing, any rail transit infrastructure built.
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Courageous and costly to develop commuter rail and rail transit in the LA region, given its huge surface area, low density, and reliance on cars and freeways.
The L.A. area is anything but "low density".

But agreed that having a plan that includes all of Southern California (and not just L.A. County) is a good thing.

How much of it actually happens is another question....

But at least L.A. is plowing forward with fairly aggressive transit plans.
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Courageous and costly to develop commuter rail and rail transit in the LA region, given its huge surface area, low density, and reliance on cars and freeways.

I often thought it couldn't be done in Southern California, but praiseworthy to see them forging ahead with anything so daunting, ambitious, and costly.

Here in Vancouver, our RRT system (still being built onto) is a great success with daily ridership approaching that of Philadelphia, in a city of only 2.3m metro; not only through engineering, but because natural geographic constraints on the city force it to be relatively compact, thereby often very dense in large nodes.

Perhaps "city centres" or "town centres" will develop in the LA region, too, thereby justifying, and enhancing, any rail transit infrastructure built.
no offense, but from your comments, its pretty obvious you've never been to LA. City centers and town centers will develop? LA has probably at least 10 areas currently that fit this description.
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