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Old Posted Apr 23, 2012, 8:41 PM
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If the bridge is crossing something like the Queensway, having them covered is great, especially in winter.

As for their appearance, frankly it depends on the design. If it's a concrete bridge with a shelter on top (the bridge to Blair Station comes to mind) then yes, open can look better. But the ones that are based on a glassed-in steel truss design look quite good since they are still largely open.
Something like this, Although I'm still not sure If I like it, It's too OC Transpo-esque for me. FYI - It's the new Calgary Peace Bridge



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Old Posted Apr 24, 2012, 12:56 AM
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Well, we could have a swanky bridge, but I'm betting that the artistic renderings will be fairly accurate - apart from the necessary black fence, of course. It is the Ottawa way.



We like our black fences anywhere there are unsupervised pedestrians.
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2012, 10:47 PM
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Puente de Luz Bridge (Portland St.)

The Calgary Peace Bridge looks a lot like the new Puente de Luz Bridge near Portland St. in Toronto.
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26 April 2012 Rideau St Renewal open house 2 display boards
http://ottawa.ca/en/city_hall/planni.../oh2/index.htm
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2012, 8:20 PM
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Not directly in Ottawa but close to and one of the main routes into Ottawa. Now the deadliest highway in all of Ontario, and they are doing very little on Highway 17 in Renfrew County. A large part of it is political - a Liberal government helping a Tea Party-dominated region that gave it about 10-15% of the vote?

http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loca...hub=OttawaHome

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County unites to ask for wider, safer highway

Communities along one of Ontario's deadliest roadways are asking the provincial government for help.

Highway 17 between Arnpror and Petawawa has seen more than a dozen fatal crashes in the past year, with 12 deaths in 2011.

The search for a solution brought Renfrew County together for a meeting on Wednesday, with the main focus on widening the highway's current two lanes.

"People are dying in Renfrew County because we have inadequate roads," said Treena Lemay of the Petawawa Police Services Board.

"The fatality numbers in our detachment area were very bleak," said S-Sgt. Colin Slight of the OPP. "I'm certainly in favour of the reconstruction of Highway 17 into a four-lane highway."
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2012, 9:12 PM
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Not directly in Ottawa but close to and one of the main routes into Ottawa. Now the deadliest highway in all of Ontario, and they are doing very little on Highway 17 in Renfrew County. A large part of it is political - a Liberal government helping a Tea Party-dominated region that gave it about 10-15% of the vote?

http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loca...hub=OttawaHome
We got several upgrades (with the downloading, of course) up in Dipperland during Mike Harris' tenure, so it's quite plausible that voting patterns won't really factor into the decision. It probably has more to do with all-roads-lead-to-Toronto orientation of any occupant of Queen's Park and the roads that don't often take a little longer to get attention. In most infrastructure the Sudbury-Ottawa "corridor" is an afterthought.
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2012, 2:36 AM
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Good point there. That corridor has no influence in Toronto at all since it completely bypasses it, making it easy to ignore.
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2012, 1:56 AM
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Wow. This should be some meeting. Don't think the reporter was impressed at the rational views expressed on the interprovincial bridge issue:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/06/10/...-plans-all-bad
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Wow. This should be some meeting. Don't think the reporter was impressed at the rational views expressed on the interprovincial bridge issue:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/06/10/...-plans-all-bad
A lot of the comments are against bridges for political reasons more than anything, likely anti-Quebec views. If trucks were banned from all bridges, then what would happen?
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A lot of the comments are against bridges for political reasons more than anything, likely anti-Quebec views. If trucks were banned from all bridges, then what would happen?
Whoda thunk it?
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The Citizen ran basically the same article today.

Some of the community members wrapped up their opposition in fancy bows that made them seem less NIMBYish to the untrained eye, but you can't tell me building a direct connection bridge between the 50 and the 417 would result in NO CHANGE to truck traffic on King Edward/Waller!
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some more jockvale upgrades

Strandherd Drive and Jockvale Road Extension

New signalized intersection
New eastbound left-turn lane, right-turn lane and bicycle pocket
New westbound left-turn lane, right-turn lane and bicycle lane
New concrete medians at intersection
New concrete sidewalks at intersection

Cedarview Road and Jockvale Road

New roundabout
New concrete sidewalks on the west side of the roundabout
New multi-use pathways on the east side of the roundabout
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Forgot to mention (if not that must of been a long time), but it is expected that both halves of Le Plateau Blvd be connected by late-summer/early fall. Basically there is only like a stretch of 500 meters or so left. Speaking of roundabouts, I think there are at least four roundabouts on that road so far.

They are also going to do some safety upgrades near the recently-completed intersection of Des Grives/Des Allumettieres.
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Is there a near-blank (except for shallow lines) map of Ottawa available to edit? I want to show ideas I have for the road network (including additions, deletions and reclassification).
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Ottawa ranked 3rd in Canada for worst commute, 10th in North America.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/07/10/...x-for-gridlock
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/News/Ot...265/story.html
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2012, 11:42 PM
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Ottawa ranked 3rd in Canada for worst commute, 10th in North America.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/07/10/...x-for-gridlock
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/News/Ot...265/story.html
Not surprising. How to fix it? No matter what, NIMBYs will get in the way. Is there a reasonable way to override the NIMBYs and do things anyway?
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Ottawa ranked 3rd in Canada for worst commute, 10th in North America.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/07/10/...x-for-gridlock
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/News/Ot...265/story.html
The methodology of this study is flawed.

First of all, they're not measuring how long the average commute is. They're ranking the cities just by how much travel times increase for vehicles at rush hour vs. non rush hour.

Ottawa ranked high because this percentage increase is high, but there is no analysis of how long the actual commute time is.

Furthermore, because it is based on vehicle GPS devices, it completely ignores non-auto commuting. How long is the average Ottawa commuter's commute (including drivers, transit users, walkers, cyclists) versus other cities? This study doesn't tell us that.
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The methodology of this study is flawed.

First of all, they're not measuring how long the average commute is. They're ranking the cities just by how much travel times increase for vehicles at rush hour vs. non rush hour.

Ottawa ranked high because this percentage increase is high, but there is no analysis of how long the actual commute time is.

Furthermore, because it is based on vehicle GPS devices, it completely ignores non-auto commuting. How long is the average Ottawa commuter's commute (including drivers, transit users, walkers, cyclists) versus other cities? This study doesn't tell us that.
I would guess in reality Ottawa ranks 5th in Canada, also behind Vancouver (more congested) and Montreal (more sprawling), in terms of commute time. Toronto is likely a runaway #1 though.
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I would guess in reality Ottawa ranks 5th in Canada, also behind Vancouver (more congested) and Montreal (more sprawling), in terms of commute time. Toronto is likely a runaway #1 though.
Again, it is NOT about commute time! All that survey says is that the rush hour commute is 22% longer than a non-peak trip. So if the regular drive from Orleans to downtown is 20 minutes, in rush hour the average is 24.4 minutes. Whoop-de-doo, sound the alarm bells over four and a half minutes spent by someone living in Convent Glen.
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it would be real interesting to see that mapped to show where the "hot spots" are; I bet the variance on a few high-capacity streets like Hunt Club, and the east ends of Carling and the ORP would be pretty impressive (and also some lower capacity streets like Booth), that crawl at peak and then fly for 20 hours a day (and all 24hrs on weekends/holidays). While some others might have very low variation at either end of the spectrum; e.g., Scott St is pretty much always free flowing (and needs to finish its diet), and Wellington/Richmond now have a pretty slow pace all day because of the popularity of the strip, on street parking, frequent local bus, etc.
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