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Old Posted Apr 27, 2012, 3:39 PM
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Looks like Markham is jostling for an NHL team:
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/...-massive-arena
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2012, 3:59 PM
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Not that I think we had any shot at landing an NHL team, but if Markham winds up getting one - that'll wipe out any slim chance for Hamilton.

We couldn't even get an MLS team if we were tried.
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2012, 11:57 PM
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Well... it's not like they're just handing out MLS teams...
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2012, 11:50 PM
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Regarding Markham and Quebec, with Phoenix playing well in the playoffs that could help with them staying put (although unlikely). I'm not sure which team besides Phoenix is likely to move.
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2012, 1:16 PM
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Phoenix is playing an awesome game, they're healthy and playing hard. I wish they didn't have to play Nashville in this series. We are watching Hamilton play Hamilton.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2012, 3:05 PM
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Ha, I was thinking that too. The other Hamilton (Pittsburgh) has been eliminated though.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2012, 5:16 PM
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Don't forget Ottawa, another 'Hamilton' team, recently eliminated by NY Rangers.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2012, 5:54 PM
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For a city with so many NHL teams, Copps seems to be sitting unused more than you would think.
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2012, 5:23 PM
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Another report came out today from the Conference Board Of Canada

http://www.conferenceboard.ca/report...iefing-14.aspx

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We therefore forecast that there will be no more than nine NHL cities in Canada in 2035. This includes the markets with existing teams (Toronto, Montréal, Ottawa–Gatineau, Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver) and two potential new markets—Québec City and Hamilton, both of which face significant start-up costs (notably, a new arena in Québec City and major arena renovations and potential territorial fees in Hamilton).
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The professional sports scene in Canada will continue to expand over the next 25 years. The conditions for growth are right—the Canadian dollar will likely remain strong and the taxation gap with the U.S. is expected to continue to narrow. This will allow existing franchises to prosper, and offer a better chance for new franchises to succeed. Canada could be home to 10 NHL teams, with new franchises in Québec City and Hamilton, and a second team in the Toronto CMA.
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2012, 7:37 PM
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The new arena in Markham will exclude the city of Hamilton from having a team permanently. One of the partners in that arena is Global Spectrum, they own the Philadelphia arena's as well as the Flyers. They wouldn't be involved if they didn't have inside information. From what I have read they should have the Markham arena up and running at the latest 2015. They presented the proposal to Markham council this week.
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2012, 8:23 PM
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Any potential Markham arena would fit the bill for what the Conference Board of Canada describes as second team in the Toronto CMA. They obviously think there is a market for this second GTA team as well as a Hamilton team.

Of course what they think is not necessarily the same as what Bettman thinks, and he is the one calling the shots with NHL expansion, not the Conference Board of Canada.

It's also worth pointing out that Live Nation/Global Spectrum isn't just a partner in the proposed Markham arena development. They are also as an active bidder for management of Hamilton's Copps Colliseum.
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The slapstick continues.

Greg Jamison unable to meet lease agreement deadline to buy Coyotes
(Associated Press, John Marshall, Feb 1, 2013)

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. — Greg Jamison has missed his deadline to buy the Phoenix Coyotes before a lease agreement with the City of Glendale expires.

The former CEO of the San Jose Sharks had until midnight Thursday to buy the team from the NHL under the terms of the lease agreement with Glendale, but was unable to get the money or investors he needed in time to hit the deadline.

“We will not be able to complete our purchase of the Phoenix Coyotes today in time to meet our deadline with the city of Glendale,” Jamison said in a statement. “However, our journey to purchase the Coyotes will continue. We realize this will require additional conversations with the city of Glendale and the NHL. We still believe we can reach an agreement that satisfies everyone. We hope negotiations with the city proceed as smoothly as possible, as everyone involved wants the Coyotes to remain in Arizona.”

Jamison had emerged as the latest and arguably best chance for the Coyotes to land an owner after more than three years of being run by the league. He reached a 20-year, US$308-million lease agreement with Glendale for Jobing.com Arena in the fall, creating what was believed to be a clear path to ending the Coyotes’ up-and-down ownership saga.

Instead, the uncertainty with the franchise will continue with still no end in sight.

“To the Arizona’s sports and hockey fans, and the City of Glendale, we appreciate your patience and diligence,” Jamison said. “We wish everything was completed today as we worked extremely hard on the deal. However, we have taken significant steps to keep the Coyotes in Glendale for the long-term. I’ve seen first-hand the wonderful support Arizona hockey fans have provided the Coyotes and we will continue our efforts to keep the NHL in Arizona.”

Glendale spokeswoman Julie Frisoni said the city will have a statement on Jamison missing the deadline on Friday, after the NHL issues one of its own.

The latest twist in the Coyotes’ search for an owner leaves open the possibility that new bidders could give Jamison competition to buy the team.
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2013, 3:22 AM
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I think we need to, once and for all, put the hockey in Hamilton dream to bed. It seems that Markham is destined to land an expansion team and, of course, Quebec will soon be hosting NHL hockey again. Hamilton needs somebody with deep pockets and serious political clout to stand up and float new arena plans otherwise we're done.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2013, 4:35 AM
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A story vaguely related to hockey in Hamilton. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/g...chase-coyotes/
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2013, 2:20 PM
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NHL says Markham got incorrect info and league hasn’t endorsed arena promoter
(Toronto Star, Tony Van Alphen, Jun 24 2013)

Markham council received inaccurate information in a secret meeting that bolstered the credibility of the controversial promoter of its $325-million proposed arena and chances of an NHL franchise, according to the league.

Minutes of a private council meeting show councillors saw documents of a “confidential nature” and other reports, including one from Mayor Frank Scarpitti, two months ago that upheld the business integrity of promoter Graeme Roustan.

The minutes, obtained by the Star, also say Roustan was a finalist in bidding for the Montreal Canadiens in 2009 and someone with the right connections to secure a franchise for the 20,000-seat arena project.

But a senior NHL official and a top sports industry source are questioning the information, which suggested Roustan is a player in the hockey world who has influence with league commissioner Gary Bettman.

Frank Brown, group vice-president of media relations for the NHL, said the league and Bettman have never endorsed Roustan as a franchise owner or indicated any positive view about a second NHL club in the Toronto area market.

“In summary, insofar as these minutes refer to the league and to the commissioner, we do not believe they are accurate,” said Brown.
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2013, 1:32 PM
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Mystery owner wants NHL team in Hamilton

A deep-pocketed prospective owner has been quietly positioning himself to make a play for an expansion team for Hamilton — if and when the National Hockey League decides to add franchises, a local businessman and hockey executive says.

"Without question there's a player who wants to have a team in Hamilton," Don Robertson says. "I can assure you of that. I'd bet my life on it."

Robertson, a driving force in senior hockey across the province who's been involved in a number of hockey-related deals over the years — including putting together the local group that bought the Hamilton Bulldogs — says he is now serving as an unpaid adviser to the mystery owner. They were introduced to each other more than a year ago.

The possible owner was apparently already working on this idea for some time before that meeting.

The idea of expansion was raised again this week at the NHL's board of governors' meetings. When commissioner Gary Bettman was asked if adding teams might be in the offing, he stressed that nothing was anywhere close to imminent. Yet his response seemed to open to the door to possibilities down the road.

"We're getting lots of expressions of interest and no decisions have been made to do anything other than listen," he said. "We haven't embarked on a formal expansion process, but when people want to talk to us, we listen."

He then went on to explain that any possible new team would need a rink, a solid hockey market and a good owner. That response suggests the league has given the idea enough thought to develop criteria for an expansion program.

If that day comes, Robertson says Hamilton is ready to be a player in the game.

He says the prospective owner has the ability to put the financing together, even though any expansion fee to land in the hockey hotbed of southern Ontario is expected to cost hundreds of millions. Some of it would be his own money and some would be raised from investors.

Other than that, Robertson will offer no details about the man. He won't name him, say what business he's in or whether he has any past or current ties to the city. The reason for this is simple, he insists.

"I am absolutely convinced there's only one way for us to get an NHL franchise," he says. "The only way this is going to happen is if it happens like Winnipeg."

The Jets, you'll recall, returned to the NHL only after owner Mark Chipman quietly worked in the shadows until everything was in place. He played the game the league's governors wanted and then waited patiently until his opportunity arrived with the failure of the Atlanta Thrashers.

His MO was the opposite of the Jim Balsillie model, in other words, which was public, loud and often antagonistic. And which ultimately landed with a thud.

"The formula for success for getting an NHL franchise for this city or any other city is: shut up," Robertson says.

So the mystery man will remain that for now. No spotlight. No attention. No contact with city hall or staff to avoid leaks. Robertson asked him on Wednesday if he'd like to go public and was told he wouldn't, yet.

Robertson's not even saying how much contact the guy's had with the NHL or whether he's made any inroads with those men who'd eventually have to vote him into the club.

"The strategy would be that there would be no public profile and no talking about it until there's something to say," Robertson says.

Even with an owner, though, there would still be plenty of challenges to finally achieving the decades-long dream of landing a team.

It seems incredibly unlikely the number of franchises added in any expansion project would be greater than two. Both Quebec City and Seattle are seen as favourites. That would seem to limit Hamilton's chances.

Robertson says one of them might end up getting an existing team — he mentioned Florida — which would keep this city in the mix.

Then there's the issue of Copps Coliseum. It isn't getting any newer and might be fine for a team for a time but a new building would probably have to be part of the discussion. That would be a political hot potato, pitting those willing to put public money into a new arena against those who'd be vigorously opposed.

On top of everything else, there's the question about how much appetite Hamilton has to go down this road again when it's been crushed by the league so many times already.


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Old Posted Dec 12, 2013, 3:40 PM
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Is somebody keeping a count of these?

No names, no details, wants to keep it quiet... so why say anything.
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2013, 3:44 PM
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Yesterday Bettman left the impression he's okay with NHL expansion to balance the conference, which would mean two additional teams.

So because of that let the rumours commence.
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2013, 5:20 PM
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Is somebody keeping a count of these?

No names, no details, wants to keep it quiet... so why say anything.
This has been going on for 40 years. That's why most in this city just roll their eyes when we hear something like this.
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