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Old Posted May 9, 2012, 2:49 PM
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Yeah, I don't think anyone is arguing that LA is going to be replaced in that category (creative). It will always be the main hub – where the decisions are made.
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And Paramount is expanding their own studio within LA. So did 20th Century Fox Studios in Century City. Universal has a big expansion planned. Disney is planning to build a huge new studio just north of LA. All the big studios and production companies are always going to be in LA.

If you’re an actor, writer or director LA is leaps and bounds over anything else. I’m trying to get in the industry myself, and I’ve never heard of anyone going to Toronto, Detroit, or even NYC to start their careers. They all want to be in LA.
No city is going to replace or even challenge LA as the center of the US film industry. No one is suggesting that by any means.

Of course all aspiring actors go to LA to get into the industry... that's what the San Pornando Valley is for. So you're in the right place to break into the "industry".
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I’m not an actor and I live in Chicago. I’m an aspiring screenwriter and I’ve just started taking film directing classes. I’ve been to a lot of networking events in Chicago and it’s amazing the pull LA has. It’s always the “end game” for everyone I’ve talked to here.

But I’m glad Pittsburgh is getting involved in the industry. It’s always been one my favorite cities.
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CBS news clip on New Orleans Film (Embedding is disabled )
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Old Posted May 10, 2012, 4:34 PM
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Perhaps the dumbest thing about this list is that many of the cities here do host feature film crews...that are directly supervised by production managers and department keys flying in from Los Angeles. These cities have cheaper crews for producers to underpay, shoot non-union and put together extensive tax-break packages following the latest frenzy of these states to lure jobs, which started in the past decade. Sometimes these tax break schemes are too good to be true and fall apart, like in Michigan. These states are often trying to out-incentivize each other, with awful results.

But the real power and caliber of talent at hand - the upper echelons of each department on set - is hardly ever *living* anywhere but LA or at times, NYC. Much of the production in LA County these days, by contrast, is reality, commercial tv and low budget indie/music video. The IDA (International Documentary Assosciation) is also based in LA.
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That's not true. As time goes on, locals become department heads, and locals either start unions, or evolve the ones that have already been there. Unless you're talking about entry level jobs, pretty much everywhere they go there are unions. As far as Michigan goes, it fell apart under the guise of a Republican governor, but not without a fight.
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It's going to be interesting to see it play out over time. I honestly don't see these states giving out these incentives for the long haul.

But at some point California is going to have to give out equal incentives. If so, then it's game over for everyone else.
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That's not true. As time goes on, locals become department heads, and locals either start unions, or evolve the ones that have already been there. Unless you're talking about entry level jobs, pretty much everywhere they go there are unions. As far as Michigan goes, it fell apart under the guise of a Republican governor, but not without a fight.
I've never heard of any local department head having any authority over any Hollywood producer or executive on a studio film.
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I never suggested local department heads would have say over Hollywood movie executives , I was questioning the notion that there are no local department heads, and the idea that productions come in to take advantage of non-union labor. Many state tax incentives have requirements to hire a certain percentage of state residences, with specific mentions of hiring above the line locals.
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As time goes on, locals become department heads, and locals either start unions, or evolve the ones that have already been there.
...but no one hires a department head on the basis of where they live. Hollywood is a relationship-driven business; DPs hire the gaffer they want, not the one whose residency qualifies the production for a tax break.

Where unions are concerned, all the major studios are signatory to the IATSE basic agreement covering the United States and Canada. If Paramount shoots a film in Butte MT, they must do so with a union crew. The advantage of hiring locally is lower wages; union locals outside of NY and CA often accept lower rates as a trade-off for getting the work.

How far such locals will go to "evolve" their membership is hard to say. They generally are loathe to expand their ranks more than absolutely necessary, given the cyclical nature of the business. Most prefer to err on the side of exclusivity to protect their membership.

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As far as Michigan goes, it fell apart under the guise of a Republican governor, but not without a fight.
Rick Snyder correctly identified Michigan's program as an over-scaled money drain that would never deliver a self-sustaining industry as promised. Rather than commit several hundred-million per year to subsidize out-of-state producers in perpetuity, he chose to cut taxes for established Michigan businesses. Many other governors are watching that decision closely.
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I'm not defending the list (I hate these stupid lists), but the ranking is regarding the making of independent films. I imagine that is a whole different ballgame from the studio films, in which LA is obviously the overwhelming top city.
I bet there are 5x more indie films made in LA each year than all the other cities on that list combined minus nyc.
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Pfff, the REAL top 10:
Pittsburgh (Batman!)
Marfa TX (There Will Be Daniel Day Lewis and No Country)
Boise, ID (Frozen River)
Santa Fe (Val Kimer has a shack there)
Minneapolis (Juno)
Denver (Things to do there when you're dead)
Boston (so many movies have that accent now it's probably a good idea to relocate there)
Vancouver (Hollywood North people!)
Juno was filmed in Vancouver... Just saying...
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NOLA beating NYC?? That cannot be right.
It is. There was news a few weeks ago about New Orleans passing over NYC in number of films in production or having been filmed in the area (I think).
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It is. There was news a few weeks ago about New Orleans passing over NYC in number of films in production or having been filmed in the area (I think).
I wouldn't doubt it. NYC is used as a setting for a lot of movies, but often the production itself occurs in LA, Toronto etc.
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