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Old Posted: May 27, 2012, 7:00 PM
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Cira Center South Movement?

This seems like a new video...

http://ciracenter.com/ccs_video.aspx

has it been around for a while?
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Old Posted: May 27, 2012, 8:34 PM
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Cira Center South Movement?

This seems like a new video...

http://ciracenter.com/ccs_video.aspx

has it been around for a while?
Hm... this all seems new
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Old Posted: May 28, 2012, 2:05 PM
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Posted: Mon, May. 28, 2012, 3:01 AM

Boom times in Barnes' new neighborhood

By Jeff Gammage
Inquirer Staff Writer

People say the Franklintown neighborhood is changing, but that's not true.

It's being transformed.

An area that's become chock-a-block with quality housing, good restaurants, stores, and attractions is going to get more, and soon, encouraged by the opening of the Barnes Foundation and its own surging momentum.

"We're getting ready for prime time, our prime time," said Mel Seligsohn, who lives in the stylish Tivoli townhouse complex. At the same time, "it's a little sad, losing control. You don't know what's going to happen."

In the last five years, the neighborhood has developed a restaurant row on Callowhill Street: Sabrina's Cafe sits by Doma Sushi, close to the King of Tandoor Indian Restaurant, near the Kite & Key - where 17 beers wait on tap and 48 more brands are in bottles. Across the street is the seemingly eternal Rose Tattoo.

Farther west on Callowhill, a Whole Foods Market draws a diverse crowd of shoppers, the emporium of a 14-block neighborhood that includes the Free Library, Community College of Philadelphia, and John W. Hallahan Catholic Girls High School.

There's talk that the Family Court building will become a hotel. Construction of a majestic Mormon temple, the first in Pennsylvania, is scheduled to start in July at 18th and Vine Streets.

Franklintown serves as a rectangular connector for the Logan Square and Spring Garden neighborhoods, running from 16th to 21st, and from the Vine Expressway to Hamilton Street, though some see Spring Garden Street as the northern border.

Predictions of the neighborhood's imminent success go back to the 1980s. But now it really seems to be happening.

The best way to get to Franklintown? Follow your ears - toward the loud, battering clatter of jackhammers and the shrill, beeping back-up signals of heavy trucks.

Near 20th and Callowhill, dump trucks collect tons of earth being displaced for the Granary, an apartment-and-retail complex scheduled to open in 2013. The project sits beside the real, fortresslike granary that looms over the block, a 1925 landmark built on the site of a Civil War grain elevator.

"Now is the time," said Jeff Katz, owner of Katz's Deli Kitchen on City Avenue, who on a recent weekday was strolling Hamilton, trading thoughts about the neighborhood's prospects with a friend, real estate consultant David Carroll.

"It feels like you're in the country a little bit. It's green," Carroll said. "Your proximity to 'real Center City,' if you've got the legs, is a couple of blocks."

Compared with the crowded heart of downtown, Franklintown offers greater space and cheaper prices, he said. The cluster of major art institutions - the Barnes, the Philadelphia Museum of Art, and the Rodin Museum - accelerates the area's desirability.

But not everyone is excited about the big changes in this small space.

Joshua Rodrigo regularly visits his mother in local senior housing. He doesn't see new, upscale apartments and restaurants as all positive.

"Yuppies moving in. Property rates going up. Old, original families have to move out," said Rodrigo, who was walking his beagle, Snoopy, in Matthias Baldwin Park. "This has become a town of transients, not a town of Philadelphians."

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20...ghborhood.html
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Old Posted: May 28, 2012, 4:13 PM
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Old Posted: May 28, 2012, 4:35 PM
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Posted: Mon, May. 28, 2012, 3:01 AM

Boom times in Barnes' new neighborhood

By Jeff Gammage
Inquirer Staff Writer

People say the Franklintown neighborhood is changing, but that's not true.

It's being transformed.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20...ghborhood.html
So glad this area is seeing more development. The parking/empty lots need to go. I only hope Callowhill starts seeing more development as well.
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Old Posted: May 29, 2012, 4:13 AM
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Posted: Mon, May. 28, 2012, 3:01 AM

Boom times in Barnes' new neighborhood

By Jeff Gammage
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This area has been developing for years because it is a nice neighborhood adjacent to Center City. The Barnes had nothing to do with it. If the site of the old Best Western hotel gets developed maybe we can credit the Barnes for that, although even that would happen eventually without the Barnes. Of course that doesn't mean the Barnes isn't an asset to the area. It's just iceing on the cake.
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Old Posted: May 29, 2012, 11:39 AM
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Did I hear right? Cira South is back?

Maybe Philly will get Cira 2 as well after all...
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Old Posted: May 29, 2012, 3:54 PM
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Since Pennsgrant and Cro Burnham can't stop bickering, I'm going to repost Pennsgrant's link (in what was otherwise all bicker):

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/i...#ixzz1wBhaC03S
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Old Posted: May 29, 2012, 7:00 PM
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Since Pennsgrant and Cro Burnham can't stop bickering, I'm going to repost Pennsgrant's link (in what was otherwise all bicker):

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/i...#ixzz1wBhaC03S
It would be nice if Penn/HUP installed a new crosswalk there to facilitate pedestrians crossing, instead of a new median barrier to turn 34th/Civic into even more of a highway.
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Old Posted: May 30, 2012, 5:08 AM
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Cira Center South Movement?

This seems like a new video...

http://ciracenter.com/ccs_video.aspx

has it been around for a while?
They do say "7 years later", and Cira Center's opening year of 2005 + 7 is this year... The parking garage is of course already built, but it's hard to believe they can fit both towers in the video on either side of it... Here's the current view: http://goo.gl/maps/n3Mz

I can believe the south tower more than the north one though. It looks like there's barely any space between the garage and Chestnut Street. Is what's in the video still possible to build?

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So glad this area is seeing more development. The parking/empty lots need to go. I only hope Callowhill starts seeing more development as well.
Like maybe this lotgasm around 11th & Vine?

http://www.citypaper.net/blogs/naked...ravaganza.html
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Old Posted: May 30, 2012, 6:52 AM
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Speaking of the Franklintown area, whatever happened to the Free Library expansion? Seems talk of that has all but disappeared.
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Old Posted: May 30, 2012, 5:19 PM
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One less parking lot.

I really should read the internal newsletters more often LOL.

"Spruce Street Plaza" - basically the small parking lot outside HUP that is an island will be changed to a small green space with benches and trees but only two entrances to reduce jaywalking LOL. Oddly enough neither of the two really point at HUP's main entrance nor Penn Tower's (where the eventual new hospital will be located). This is Spruce between 33rd and 34th on the south side of Spruce. The food trucks will move to the NE corner of 33rd and Spruce (by Franklin Field). No nose picking or smoking will be allowed, there will be cameras LOL. They will be adding a flashing light and a true crosswalk from HUP to the UC train station (across 34th) so that's good.

There will also be a 1000-car parking garage built adjacent to "Lot 51" and their first mention in writing about the new hospital (up to 1200 beds some year): "The vision is to consider building a new patient tower in the future."

I would guess the 200k SF "South Pavilion" (which faces East) will also have some parking built in (unless they are going to move most of the Radiology scanners into that new basement from Penn Tower).

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Old Posted: May 30, 2012, 5:35 PM
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They do say "7 years later", and Cira Center's opening year of 2005 + 7 is this year... The parking garage is of course already built, but it's hard to believe they can fit both towers in the video on either side of it... Here's the current view: http://goo.gl/maps/n3Mz

I can believe the south tower more than the north one though. It looks like there's barely any space between the garage and Chestnut Street. Is what's in the video still possible to build?



Like maybe this lotgasm around 11th & Vine?

http://www.citypaper.net/blogs/naked...ravaganza.html
I'm going to assume both tower can fit or they wouldn't be planning to still build them. Yes 11th and Vine which will be the Chinatown Eastern Tower Community Center is an awesome looking tower... let's hope they build it though. And that tower will only take up the small Southeast corner of that massive lot.

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I really should read the internal newsletters more often LOL.

"Spruce Street Plaza" - basically the small parking lot outside HUP that is an island will be changed to a small green space with benches and trees but only two entrances to reduce jaywalking LOL. Oddly enough neither of the two really point at HUP's main entrance nor Penn Tower's (where the eventual new hospital will be located). This is Spruce between 33rd and 34th on the south side of Spruce. The food trucks will move to the NE corner of 33rd and Spruce (by Franklin Field). No nose picking or smoking will be allowed, there will be cameras LOL. They will be adding a flashing light and a true crosswalk from HUP to the UC train station (across 34th) so that's good.

There will also be a 1000-car parking garage built adjacent to "Lot 51" and their first mention in writing about the new hospital (up to 1200 beds some year): "The vision is to consider building a new patient tower in the future."

I would guess the 200k SF "South Pavilion" (which faces East) will also have some parking built in (unless they are going to move most of the Radiology scanners into that new basement from Penn Tower).

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How far is "the future"? lol
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Old Posted: May 30, 2012, 5:37 PM
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Well it seems a new 4 story building will be replacing these three lowrises at 15th and Walnut. Does not sound so exciting but the whole complex is going to be a retail complex so the roof heights could be pretty high, like 20 feet or so. Word is two of the tenants will be Sovereign Bank and Cheesecake Factory. No word on the other two tenants yet.



Here is the link to the article
http://nakedphilly.com/rittenhouse/n...oving-forward/
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I really should read the internal newsletters more often LOL.

"Spruce Street Plaza" - basically the small parking lot outside HUP that is an island will be changed to a small green space with benches and trees but only two entrances to reduce jaywalking LOL. Oddly enough neither of the two really point at HUP's main entrance nor Penn Tower's (where the eventual new hospital will be located). This is Spruce between 33rd and 34th on the south side of Spruce. The food trucks will move to the NE corner of 33rd and Spruce (by Franklin Field). No nose picking or smoking will be allowed, there will be cameras LOL. They will be adding a flashing light and a true crosswalk from HUP to the UC train station (across 34th) so that's good.

There will also be a 1000-car parking garage built adjacent to "Lot 51" and their first mention in writing about the new hospital (up to 1200 beds some year): "The vision is to consider building a new patient tower in the future."

I would guess the 200k SF "South Pavilion" (which faces East) will also have some parking built in (unless they are going to move most of the Radiology scanners into that new basement from Penn Tower).

Cheers,
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Ahhh so a few trees and benches is the bribe to be allowed to put a median barrier down the middle of the future 34th Street Freeway
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Ahhh so a few trees and benches is the bribe to be allowed to put a median barrier down the middle of the future 34th Street Freeway
Or, stripped of its emotional connotations, an "exaction." States (and municipalities) can require private individuals to construct certain things for public use as a condition to a grant of zoning permits/etc. A question, is it Spruce Street Pizza that is doing this?
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Speaking of this area, I just noticed something that slightly blows my mind. Do... do 34th and 33rd Street really share one roadway at this intersection with Civic Center Blvd? http://goo.gl/maps/1Qvk
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Cira Center South Movement?

This seems like a new video...

http://ciracenter.com/ccs_video.aspx

has it been around for a while?
The narrative says "7 years ago" and Cira Center was announced in 2002 and completed in 2005. 2005 + 7 = 2012. I'd say this is new and the rendering appears to match more recent renderings I've seen. This perhaps represents new energy and money being directed towards this project. Let's hope!
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Or, stripped of its emotional connotations, an "exaction." States (and municipalities) can require private individuals to construct certain things for public use as a condition to a grant of zoning permits/etc. A question, is it Spruce Street Pizza that is doing this?
I don't think that anyone would deny that that's how things are done, trading some benefit to the public for something from the public. I wouldn't even say that it's a bad thing.

My question is simply whether the benefit (nice little park on that parking island) is worth the cost (turning 34th/33rd/Civic into more of a car-only road). I would probably feel more strongly about this if someone hadn't already decided long ago to cede everything south of Spruce Street to the automobile. The difference between the pedestrian-friendly zone of Penn's campus and the car-friendly hospital complex is pretty stark.
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Well it seems a new 4 story building will be replacing these three lowrises at 15th and Walnut. Does not sound so exciting but the whole complex is going to be a retail complex so the roof heights could be pretty high, like 20 feet or so. Word is two of the tenants will be Sovereign Bank and Cheesecake Factory. No word on the other two tenants yet.



Here is the link to the article
http://nakedphilly.com/rittenhouse/n...oving-forward/
I'm glad to see that this will finally move forward and there will be more retailers on this corner, but I hope that Lush is able to relocate since it would still be a shame to lose a retailer because of this. It also stinks that the building that Lush is in will be demolished since the original pieces of the facade are quite beautiful. Oh well, at least it will go for something good!
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