DETROIT | Development & Construction: Motown Lowdown - Page 69

subterranean · #**1361** Posted: **May 23, 2012, 7:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by hudkina

Fewer seats means more sell outs. When demand outpaces supply, they can charge much higher prices for the tickets. There will almost certainly be a lot more suites which also generate far more profit than a typical seat. It's the same reason MLB and the NFL are building smaller stadiums than they used to.

My thoughts exactly.

Hayward · #**1362** Posted: **May 24, 2012, 3:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by montréaliste

Good news sub! I hope they can add a coupla levels of subterranean parking
in there.

In the case of an arena, it's actually easier to locate the parking...or shall I say parking garage on the roof. The roof will require deep trusses and the parking could be placed within what otherwise be empty plenum space. It's rarely done, but it's been done...not so attractively.

BTW, the Globe Trading Company reno looks fantastic.

StatenIslander237 · #**1363** Posted: **May 24, 2012, 3:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by subterranean

It would be nice to have all four teams back in the city of Detroit.

Detroit needs a soccer team next

Hill Country · #**1364** Posted: **May 24, 2012, 4:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by StatenIslander237

Detroit needs a soccer team next

Nobody needs a soccer team. I kid, I kid. I enjoy kicking stuff.

fishrose · #**1365** Posted: **May 24, 2012, 4:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by StatenIslander237

Detroit needs a soccer team next

Detroit has a team in the minor league NPSL. The Detroit City FC is new this year, but they're doing pretty well.

LMich · #**1366** Posted: **May 24, 2012, 7:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by hudkina

Fewer seats means more sell outs. When demand outpaces supply, they can charge much higher prices for the tickets. There will almost certainly be a lot more suites which also generate far more profit than a typical seat. It's the same reason MLB and the NFL are building smaller stadiums than they used to.

I was thinking about this why I typed that, but was also thinking that there is a point at which the return for shrinkage becomes a wash. 2,000 seats just sounded kind of steep, but I admit that I didn't do any basic math, it was just a gut feeling.

hudkina · #**1367** Posted: **May 24, 2012, 5:02 PM**

Assuming they can get at least a 10-15% premium (depending on what the actual average ticket price is), then they should be able to generate more revenue.

$60 x 20,000 = $1,200,000, while $68 x 18,000 = $1,224,000. That's a 13% increase. I have no idea what the average ticket price is, nor what sort of premium they are expecting from a new arena.

animatedmartian · #**1368** Posted: **May 29, 2012, 5:23 PM**

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Bing, Godbee break ground on new Detroit Police headquarters
By John Gallagher
Detroit Free Press
May 29, 2012

Detroit Mayor Dave Bing and Police Chief Ralph Godbee broke ground this morning on what will become the city’s combined police, fire and emergency management headquarters.

An existing building that earlier served as the MGM Grand temporary casino and an IRS data center will reopen in summer 2013 as the combined headquarters after a $60-million makeover.

Bing told about 100 people at the groundbreaking that the new building will increase efficiency in the fight against crime and violence.

“I know this is a difficult time in our city’s history,” Bing said. “But I also know we can fight back and win. We can’t let fear paralyze us. We must be motivated to take our city back.”

In addition to Detroit’s police and fire department headquarters, the remade complex will house the city’s EMS, Homeland Security and related agencies. Negotiations are under way to include the Michigan State Police’s Metropolitan Forensic Laboratory within the facility.

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http://www.freep.com/article/2012052...text|FRONTPAGE

Hayward · #**1369** Posted: **May 29, 2012, 5:41 PM**

I'm happy the temporary casino will find a meaningful purpose, but I'd ask people to type "new police headquarters" or "new federal building" into google and see what other cities are doing.

animatedmartian · #**1370** Posted: **May 30, 2012, 4:30 AM**

Yea San Francisco's looks nice. But it also costs $240 million. Detroit is has $60 million and so that's the type of building we get. I think it looks pretty decent relative to most local projects. It's designed by the same guys who did the YMCA building so I'm pretty okay with it.

More via Curbed.

Hayward · #**1371** Posted: **May 30, 2012, 5:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by animatedmartian

Yea San Francisco's looks nice. But it also costs $240 million. Detroit is has $60 million and so that's the type of building we get. I think it looks pretty decent relative to most local projects. It's designed by the same guys who did the YMCA building so I'm pretty okay with it.

More via Curbed.

I was really more concerned with the design articulation not actual facility comparisons in cost. I just find the design imposing. I know a lot of the complications behind this retrofit but I'll leave it at that

LMich · #**1372** Posted: **May 30, 2012, 10:32 AM**

Up in New Center...

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Robin Buckson | Detroit News

Made in New Center: Bikes, watches

By Louis Aguilar | The Detroit News

May 30, 2012

The founder of Fossil Inc. has chosen a New Center site to make bicycles and watches and is close to signing a lease agreement to sell those goods in a West Canfield Street retail shop in Detroit's Midtown, according to three sources familiar with the dealings.

Tom Kartsotis, founder of Fossil watches, sunglasses and apparel, has signed a lease for a 30,000-square-foot space in the College for Creative Studies' A. Alfred Taubman Center for Design Education, according to the sources, who requested anonymity because they didn't have permission to speak publicly.

Kartsotis could not be reached for comment. Officials at the College for Creative Studies referred calls to the public relations firm Lovio George, where a staff member said Tuesday the person who could possibly comment was traveling and unavailable to talk.

The line of watches will be sold under the brand Shinola and has begun to be made in the college's space, which is in a 760,000-square-foot building designed by Albert Kahn. General Motors donated the building to the college in 2008. Prototypes of the bicycles are also being made now, according to the sources.

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Hayward · #**1373** Posted: **May 31, 2012, 2:13 AM**

^ This is really awesome news and good for New Center!

StatenIslander237 · #**1374** Posted: **May 31, 2012, 4:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hayward

^ This is really awesome news and good for New Center!

This is really awesome news for America.

LMich · #**1375** Posted: **May 31, 2012, 7:02 AM**

Nearby...

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Henry Ford Health System

Large medical warehouse to be built in Detroit's Midtown, south of Henry Ford Health campus

By Patricia Anstett | Detroit Free Press

May 30, 2012

The Henry Ford Health System Wednesday announced its first major tenant in its $500 million plan to redevelop 300 acres of vacant and deteriorated housing south of its Detroit flagship campus.

The development is part of a much larger collaboration with the Detroit Medical Center, Wayne State University and others to revitalize areas between Detroit’s downtown and midtown.

“We are starting to fill in all the gaps between midtown and downtown,’’ said Robert Riney, president and COO of the Ford system. “This pushes those boundaries further.”

The joint effort with the Detroit Medical Center and Cardinal Health, a Dublin, Ohio health company, will build a large medical warehouse to the area just west of the Ford and Lodge freeways, on land pock-marked with old railroad tracks and empty petroleum and manufacturing buildings.

The move will transfer 140 jobs to Detroit from Romulus, where Cardinal Health has a distribution center. Pending city approvals, construction will begin later this year, to be completed by late 2013.

I love the ever-expanding borders of "Midtown". lol Maybe it's because I use to live near this area, but this is an expansion westward of New Center as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, I'm excited about this more than most things. I've always wanted Detroit to reclaim a lot of its idnustrial land for industrial reuse, because this is where you're going to build a general jobs base from which to build off of. Sure, the building is no Albert Kahn warehouse, but it's some good jobs.

uaarkson · #**1376** Posted: **May 31, 2012, 6:18 PM**

So now that manufacturing is really starting to pick up in Chicago, might we start seeing some of that action spilling into Michigan?

subterranean · #**1377** Posted: **May 31, 2012, 8:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by uaarkson

So now that manufacturing is really starting to pick up in Chicago, might we start seeing some of that action spilling into Michigan?

From the MEDC Facebook page:

Hayward · #**1378** Posted: **May 31, 2012, 10:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by uaarkson

So now that manufacturing is really starting to pick up in Chicago, might we start seeing some of that action spilling into Michigan?

Manufacturing is growing in Michigan though I'd hope to see more of it concentrated in urban centers and less on the fringe of cities.

Keep the jobs coming! For a warehouse, that building looks nice.

hudkina · #**1379** Posted: **Jun 1, 2012, 4:03 AM**

It looks typical of all the suburban warehouses that have gone up around here in the last few decades.

LMich · #**1380** Posted: **Jun 1, 2012, 7:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by uaarkson

So now that manufacturing is really starting to pick up in Chicago, might we start seeing some of that action spilling into Michigan?

You got that a bit backwards. Manufacturing has been coming back in Michigan faster than just about any state in the union. A lot of it is replacing auto jobs cut during the recession, but a lot of it is general manufacturing, too.