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Construction begins at Discovery Centre

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...scovery-centre

Construction has begun on two new restaurants at the water’s edge.

The former Parks Canada Discovery Centre on Pier 8 is being transformed into two restaurants. Officials from the Waterfront Trust, who took over the building last year, have officially signed a lease for the venues but say it’s too early to give any further details.

The two new restaurants are expected to be open by spring 2012. One restaurant will be Italian fine dining, while the other will be a more casual smokehouse grill equipped with a stage for live entertainment and a dance floor. It will also have a 13,000-square-foot patio.

Parks Canada closed the Discovery Centre, dubbed “Canada’s first virtual urban national park,” in 2010 amid dwindling attendance. After the closure, the Waterfront Trust took over the building and signed a 43-year lease to manage the site.
Private investment?!?! Non-taxpayer funded venture?!?! Well color me excited!

Can't wait to check them out!
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Looks like the City's latest plan for Setting Sail should be public within a few days.
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Council approves Setting Sail amendment. Should be public any moment.
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what is the result? Did they just vote on it but not discuss it? Do you know how it will be made public?
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Lots of retail, looks like the White Star proposal is approved which is residential.
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Setting Sail gets a green light

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...-a-green-light

City councillors have settled a long-running debate about the future of the west harbour lands.

At Wednesday night’s council meeting, councillors approved a settlement proposal for Setting Sail, the controversial guideline that maps out a plan for the Barton-Tiffany corridor. The entire plan for the west harbour neighbourhood was released Wednesday night.

The settlement still needs to go back to the Ontario Municipal Board for final approval. That’s expected to happen within the next several weeks.

“I think we have a very positive precinct now. It’s going to be attractive to a developer or two,” said Councillor Jason Farr, who represents the area. “I’m really happy tonight that we have what we have. I truly feel it’s going to be an attractive spot.”

According to the settlement, residential buildings up to four storeys will be permitted along Barton Street, east of Queen Street. West of Queen is zoned as parkland. The lands along Stuart Street will be zoned for a variety of commercial uses.

The plan also allows for a condo proposal for up to eight storeys on Bay Street, a long-standing plan of the White Star developer group. It includes a wide trail that will run from the intersection of Stuart Street and Bay Street, through the Barton-Tiffany area to Barton Street.

The issue dates back to 2005, when CN appealed the plan to the Ontario Municipal Board. The railroad objected to the city’s plan to convert the neighbourhood into a new residential enclave, arguing it was too close to the waterfront rail yard.
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creamed: Water heater factory flattened for future development

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...re-development

Rheem is gone.

After a week of smashing through glass and concrete, a contractor finally has levelled the long vacant water heater factory to make way for the city’s plans to develop the west harbour lands.

“The demolition process was to make it appealing and attractive for some would-be developer or developers who might come along,” said Councillor Jason Farr.

“I am hopeful and feeling optimistic that a number of people will step up and purchase all or some parts of that land and build according to the zoning that’s in place.”

The Ministry of Environment says it was not involved in the demolition. A spokesperson said whoever develops the property will likely have to do soil remediation. The developer will have to present proof that the soil meets the government standard for the zoning.
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sounds pretty great to me. Great news for Whitestar, finally they'll get their tower on Bay st. This whole area is going to come to life now. We'll see what a 'variety of commercial uses' on Stuart means, but most likely it will be mixed use with residential possible above the first floor. There is only one commercial designation in the new zoning bylaws that prohibits residential and I can't see that being in place. So the door will be open for condo towers and supermarkets....sweeeeeeeeet!!!!!!

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Setting Sail gets a green light

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...-a-green-light

City councillors have settled a long-running debate about the future of the west harbour lands.

At Wednesday night’s council meeting, councillors approved a settlement proposal for Setting Sail, the controversial guideline that maps out a plan for the Barton-Tiffany corridor. The entire plan for the west harbour neighbourhood was released Wednesday night.

The settlement still needs to go back to the Ontario Municipal Board for final approval. That’s expected to happen within the next several weeks.

“I think we have a very positive precinct now. It’s going to be attractive to a developer or two,” said Councillor Jason Farr, who represents the area. “I’m really happy tonight that we have what we have. I truly feel it’s going to be an attractive spot.”

According to the settlement, residential buildings up to four storeys will be permitted along Barton Street, east of Queen Street. West of Queen is zoned as parkland. The lands along Stuart Street will be zoned for a variety of commercial uses.

The plan also allows for a condo proposal for up to eight storeys on Bay Street, a long-standing plan of the White Star developer group. It includes a wide trail that will run from the intersection of Stuart Street and Bay Street, through the Barton-Tiffany area to Barton Street.

The issue dates back to 2005, when CN appealed the plan to the Ontario Municipal Board. The railroad objected to the city’s plan to convert the neighbourhood into a new residential enclave, arguing it was too close to the waterfront rail yard.
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I requested a copy of the amendments. The results are a site specific amendment for whitestar lands, as well as what I think looks like a removal of hotels and dwelling units from the 'mixed-use' designation fronting Stuart, which extends south about 3/4 of the way down Hess, Queen, Caroline and Tiffany. So essentially an ad hoc new zoning designation called 'mixed-use' but not really. However the rest of the mixed use designation is the same: no drive-throughs, maximum size 6000 Sq m, maximum building height 15 m.

The rest of the area along the north side of Barton is now multiple residential, which allow commercial uses so long as residential is also included, with a strip of conservation land west of Queen.

Plus the addition of a recreational path all the way through.

My enthusiasm is dampened. What's the point of a zoning scheme if you can just rewrite it. I'm happy to see Whitestar approved but really the whole area should be allowed to build up and mixed use. But there will be no big box - more likely a supermarket, doctors offices, other good stuff.
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Neighbours iffy about commercial zoning in west

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...n-west-harbour

The city’s latest idea for the contested west harbour lands is making nearby residents uneasy.

The long-running dispute over the future of the Barton-Tiffany corridor is inching closer to a conclusion after city council approved a new vision for the area at Wednesday night’s council meeting.

But the revised proposal for the west harbour is disconcerting for neighbourhood residents, says Shawn Selway of the North End Neighbours Group. They’re worried that the plan — which initially called for the land bordered by Barton, Queen, Bay and Stuart Streets to be filled with housing — has been changed to zone most of that area for commercial properties.

“We don’t know what that means. We don’t know if the city has done any investigation about what kind of commercial might be viable down there without damaging the existing businesses on James Street,” Selway said.

“We think that in order for existing businesses to thrive, we need more people living downtown.”

The Setting Sail plan faces its final hurdle at the Ontario Municipal Board on Feb. 21. That’s when the city hopes to settle with the North End Neighbours and CN, both of whom had appealed the first version of Setting Sail. If all parties don’t accept the proposal, those dates could be used for a regular hearing.

The settlement proposal approved by council Wednesday includes a 150-metre commercial “buffer zone” surrounding the CN rail yard that would create a visual and acoustic barrier between the train tracks and residences along Barton. The plan was altered as a compromise with CN, which initially requested a 300-metre buffer.

The city’s proposed compromise leaves only a small L-shaped parcel of land along Barton and Bay zoned residential. Part of that residential zone will include an eight-storey condo on Bay Street near Stuart.

The commercial zoning along Stuart allows for a “full spectrum” of uses, said Michelle Sergi, the city’s manager of community planning and design. It could wind up as office space, private recreation businesses (such as gyms), services (restaurants or banks) or retail.

“We’re looking for more of a mix,” Sergi said.

What it won’t include are big-box stores. The maximum size for commercial buildings in that area will be 6,000 square metres, or about the size of a Shoppers Drug Mart or a small grocery store.

The revised Setting Sail plan also calls for a five-metre-wide trail that would wind through the neighbourhood between Crooks and Bay streets. Selway points to the trail as the North End Neighbours’ greatest success throughout their involvement in Setting Sail.

Once the city finishes at the OMB, the first step the city would have to complete before any shovels go into the ground is a comprehensive urban design study. That document would map out the specific vision for the neighbourhood and will begin as soon as possible after matters are settled at the OMB.

“Once that’s happened, it will become a priority,” Sergi said.
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Gonna have to wait to see the plans but conservation land west of Queen and a trail? Not sure about that. I think it's a case of people being so used to sh*t getting built that they'll do anything to retain a little green space. That area should be developed full stop. Perched high above the West Harbour, great views, great location; that's some valuable land right there.
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OMB okays West Harbour development plan

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...velopment-plan

The Ontario Municipal Board has accepted a settlement proposal to end a decade of conflict over the city’s plans to revamp the West Harbour.

The city’s original secondary plan for the area called for hundreds of new homes in the largely industrial Barton-Tiffany neighborhood.

CN Rail appealed the plan, arguing the new homes would be too close to its waterfront rail yard.

On Monday, a joint settlement proposal was presented in an OMB hearing by the city, CN, development company Whitestar and community group North End Neighbours.

The plan calls for a 150 metre commercial “buffer zone” around the rail yard, but provides a special allowance for an eight-storey condo development east of the CN property on Bay Street.

A small, L-shaped band of residential zoning will also be allowed along Barton and Bay streets.

Shawn Selway of the North End Neighbours said the OMB chair accepted the settlement in principle, but will delay formally closing the appeal for 60 days while the parties “dot the ‘i's and cross the ‘t’s” on the settlement.

The secondary plan also faced a second appeal over traffic management by NEN.

The OMB is expected to render a decision on that appeal sometime in the near future.
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There will be an open house for the setting sails environmental assessment.

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Paul Wilson: That rail yard on the waterfront - maybe it's not situation hopeless

http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/talk/stor...rfront-cn.html

The Stuart Street rail yard, down at the water's edge, is as old as Hamilton itself. For a long time, the city was pleased and proud to have it there. The railroad was progress.

But for decades now, many in Hamilton have wished the railroad would go away. Not the GO trains. And freights flying through are generally OK too. But that marshalling yard on Stuart, a dozen tracks or more, has laid claim to the West Harbour long enough.

This week, in an architect's office downtown, a small band of citizens heard from a man who said there's fresh hope for Hamilton to get those lands by the water back.

Not tomorrow. Not next year. But how does six years sound?

There's no rail yard in this design, just CN's main-line tracks. Condos, houses, shops and green space would take over the waterfront. (Courtesy Thier + Curran Architects Inc.)
Host for the night was well-known city architect Bill Curran. He lives in the North End.

He and others who live there have been watching the drama unfold on the lands north of Barton, between Bay and Queen. It began a couple of years ago, when the city started buying up land there, with the idea of erecting a Pan Am stadium.

But in midstream, the Ticats announced they would never, ever play there. So the city was left with three big, empty city blocks, for which it had paid $10 million. What to do with it?

As always, the CN rail yard looms large. The city is not allowed to put housing near it.

So now commercial uses are under study. Zoning allows for structures up to some 60,000 square feet. That's the size of the big Sobey's at Meadowlands.

But it's unlikely retail would locate there. Perhaps it would be something with office space out front and a big warehouse out back. The view of Curran and friends on that - what a waste of waterfront.

At the meeting this week, Curran scored an interesting guest. He spoke on condition of anonymity.

This businessman has been well-acquainted with aspects of CN operations for many years. Indeed, he was helpful a dozen or so years ago in bringing CN and the city together on an agreement for the Waterfront Trail along the edge of the rail lands.

The CN yard is now leased to a large Florida-based outfit called RailAmerica, operating here as Southern Ontario Railway. That lease, says the man, expires in 2018. And he believes CN would be quite willing to talk to the city about what happens after that.


Intermodal transportation, where freight can be switched between trucks and trains, is important today. Hamilton is not that kind of yard. In fact, it's been steadily downsized. At one time, it included maintenance facilities, warehouses, offices. All that's gone now.

Your hair must be silver to have gathered as much experience as the man who spoke to the small group. But he said he expects to be alive to witness houses and condos and shops on those railway lands.

The CN main line, of course, would continue to run through Hamilton. Architect Curran doesn't see that as a problem at all. He and his staff have donated time worth about $10,000 on thematic plans for the waterfront area.

The important thing, he says, is to hold onto that precious land. Don't be selling it off right now to commercial developers. "We have here an essential part of Hamilton's identity that could be squandered."

CN confirms in an e-mail that it has leased the Stuart yard to RailAmerica, but won't say for how long.

Once the lease does expire, whenever that may be, would CN entertain an offer from the city to purchase that waterfront land?

The company's written response: "The Stuart Street Yard is, and will continue to be an essential part of a rail network which supports service to local Hamilton area customers. The needs of these customers will remain and may grow over the next several years."

So that CN's official stance. Doesn't sound very promising.

But Jason Farr, councillor for the ward, was interested to hear about the man who stepped forward. "My God, if that's true, we'd have to rethink the whole concept... 2018 is just around the corner."

Farr says he's never spoken to CN. He thinks the feeling around City Hall is that CN is generally "not willing to budge and difficult to work with. But I'd want to start from square one."

Farr asked if the man in the know would be willing to make contact with him. He is, and they will talk soon.
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Hamilton’s newest waterfront attraction is planning a hiring fair.

http://www.thespec.com/news/business...ng-hiring-fair

Sarcoa Restaurant and Bar, which is taking over the old Discovery Centre on the waterfront, will be interviewing potential staff this weekend between noon and 3 p.m. at the restaurant, 57 Discovery Dr.

Resumes can also be submitted online at http://www.sarcoa.ca/

The new eatery will offer a 350-seat waterfront patio overlooking Pier 8, a patio bar seating 40, and outdoor stage for live music and five private cabanas.

The planned menu runs to steak and smoked meats such as brisket and sausages. It will change with the seasons.

The new restaurant is owned by three Hamiltonians who so far have not identified themselves. They are in the midst of redeveloping 8,000 square feet of interior space and a 12,000-square-foot patio to create two restaurants at the centre. The other is to feature Italian cuisine in a fine-dining environment.

Sarcoa is one of a number of developments along the waterfront, including an expansion of the existing Williams Fresh Café, an ice cream stand, a display area for the Bay Area Restoration Council and Green Venture.
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City on track to reclaim waterfront?

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...aim-waterfront

A new citizens’ group has pitched a radical rethink of the city’s West Harbour development plan — including talks with CN to relocate the Stuart Street rail yard.

The plan, featuring a three-dimensional blueprint by local architect Bill Curran, calls for parkland, stores and condos on waterfront lands now dominated by the rail yard and vacant city-owned properties in the Barton-Tiffany area.

Curran said residents were upset to learn the city agreed to ban residential development near the rail yard this spring to settle an Ontario Municipal Board dispute with CN.

“This area … is an essential bridge between our downtown and prime waterfront land,” said Curran. “We can’t afford to just throw up (commercial) buildings and surround it with a sea of pavement.”

The OMB settlement, negotiated in secret, calls for the majority of the neighbourhood south of the rail yard to be rezoned for commercial use, including most properties expropriated and razed by the city for its ill-fated Pan Am stadium plan. The settlement nixes the Setting Sail secondary plan that envisioned 700 new families in the area.

Most Hamiltonians weren’t involved in the OMB decision, said retired engineer Bob Carr.

“I’m hoping they’ll get involved now, get excited about this vision,” said the North End resident, who added the group has stayed true to the Setting Sail goals endorsed by residents.

One reason to get excited: Group members believe a decades-old dream to relocate the waterfront rail yard could become a reality within 10 years.

Curran said a rail yard lease between Canadian National and an American-owned rail company, Southern Ontario Railway, will run out in 2018.

“We think this is the perfect opportunity for the city to talk about the future of this land with CN,” he said. “Other cities have moved rail yards, so why can’t we?”

General manager Blake Jones confirmed the RailAmerica-owned company has six years remaining on its lease of the Stuart Street yard.

“We’d like to renew, but we haven’t had that conversation yet,” he said.

Spokesperson Lindsay Fedchyshyn said CN is not planning to move or abandon the rail yard and is not engaged in any related discussions with the city.

The OMB settlement also discourages relocation planning, thereby axing a reference in the old Setting Sail document “encouraging” relocation of the rail yard.

Mayor Bob Bratina called relocating the rail yard “key to the future of the development of the waterfront in Hamilton.”

He’s just not sure how or when it will happen.

“We would have to demonstrate to them that we have a viable (alternate) site that’s worth considering,” said Bratina, who noted a 1990s pitch to relocate the rail yard to Aldershot failed for lack of funding. A 1995 study by the city pegged moving costs at $100 million.

Bratina said he proposed using old industrial lands near Centennial Parkway as a home for the rail yard several years ago, but council opted to rezone them for commercial use.

Jason Farr, councillor for the ward that includes the Barton-Tiffany area, said he’s interested in hearing more from the group.

“In the past, it appears like we gave up on CN,” he said. “Maybe it’s time to restart the conversation because if there’s an opportunity to reclaim that waterfront, that would be big news.”

Curran said the group’s first goal is to convince the city to protect the vacant Barton-Tiffany lands, rather than sell them off to developers.

The city could sell the 11 acres of expropriated former homes and industrial buildings at any time, but no development can take place until after the city completes a planned $350,000 urban design study, said planning director Paul Mallard.

“We’re saying, don’t sell it yet, because once the box stores are built, the potential of that property is gone forever,” Curran said. “Let’s stop, catch our breath and talk as a community about a long-term vision.”
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My prediction - the CN rail yards are going nowhere, and the Big Box stores (or medium-box strip malls, same difference) will come in exactly as warned thanks to the OMB settlement. This is what we get when we turn down good redevelopment money (the west-harbour stadium) for bad (the stillborn "Setting Sail" plan). Yay Hamilton.
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When real football and sports fans go to Ivor Wynne the view for us is on the gridiron to watch the game. If you wanted a stadium at Stuart/Tiffany Streets just to get a good view of the harbour then save $35/ and go for a free walk on Bayfront walk.

Maybe we can build a WH viewing tower platform for all the bitter WH people, pretend that's a football game below you -- that you don't care about anyway -- and look around at the scenery, that is, over the train yards.
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When real football and sports fans go to Ivor Wynne the view for us is on the gridiron to watch the game. If you wanted a stadium at Stuart/Tiffany Streets just to get a good view of the harbour then save $35/ and go for a free walk on Bayfront walk.

Maybe we can build a WH viewing tower platform for all the bitter WH people, pretend that's a football game below you -- that you don't care about anyway -- and look around at the scenery, that is, over the train yards.
With all due respect, I consider myself a real football/Tiger-Cat fan and wanted the stadium at WH. It's not about my view, it's more about promoting the city in the best possible light for out of towners as well as hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of TV viewers across the entire country.
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Brian Hinkley shares my own vision and I know most of ours, thankfully published as a strong opinion made about the Spec article 'Grassroots group on track to take back West Harbour lands' (http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...-harbour-lands)

Reading this makes my captialist fire inside burn and gives me goosebumps! When I first moved to Hamilton I thought it was growing, but wow - this is astonishingly huge! Go Hamilton go! Nice letter Brian Hinkley, we need more positive banter about this from people like you!

Find the will to get rid of harbour rail yards

Grassroots group tracks future of west harbour lands; Promotes development, seeks political action on CN rail yard lands (July 11)

The time has come to move the railway yards away from the waterfront park. There is no debate necessary. Get on with it. Find the will and the way to make this happen.

They said it would never happen when we changed the industrial designation on the former Lax property to parkland and expropriated the land. Many loud voices said it was too expensive to buy and clean up the contaminated lands. They said we could never negotiate a deal with the ever litigious Harbour commissioners.

I was chairman of the city’s parks and recreation committee when they said it couldn’t be done. It was accomplished and we turned a toxic dump and designated industrial site into a lovely waterfront park. I was later appointed to the Harbour Commission and we struck a deal with the city for the west harbour to be used for recreational purposes. It wasn’t easy, and it took a long time, but we made it happen.

The removal of the rail yards can be done. If the powers-that-be want it to happen, they can make it happen. The potential to further develop the waterfront as a people place with substantial economic benefits is enormous, let alone the increase in our civic pride that will result.

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