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Old Posted: Aug 29, 2011, 7:21 PM
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I guess, but the only one of the bunch in Les Galeries Gatineau I could see expanding is The Brick...
Only store in Gatineau that really needs to expand is Canadian Tire. Les Galeries is not an option for that. If Target were to do 1 store in the Outaouais, it would be the one on Maloney I think...
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Old Posted: Aug 30, 2011, 2:13 PM
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Only store in Gatineau that really needs to expand is Canadian Tire. Les Galeries is not an option for that. If Target were to do 1 store in the Outaouais, it would be the one on Maloney I think...
The current Zellers plus the empty Winners space right next to it would make a great mega Target store, you are right.
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Old Posted: Jun 29, 2012, 4:20 AM
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From Open File Ottawa on June28 2012;

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St. Laurent mall's expansion stalled indefinitely

Were it not for its $2 cinema, St. Laurent Shopping Centre might be like any of Ottawa’s malls: it has a Sears and a Bay, a Subway, and a Manchu Wok, among dozens of other stores.

If plans to expand the mall, originally proposed in 2010, get underway, St. Laurent would rack up further distinctions. It would become the largest mall in Ottawa, and one of the 10 largest in Canada.

The Ottawa Sun first reported that story in November 2010, and noted that the proposal included increasing the leasable area from the current 82,500 square metres to 170,000 square metres, more than doubling the size of the mall. The plan also included zoning changes to allow for an office tower up to 20 storeys to be built on the land owned by Morguard Investments, according to the Sun report.

St. Laurent would grow to the west, expanding into land across Coventry Road on both the north and south sides of where the street currently runs, though the expansion plan also involves rerouting the street. The full report to the city's planning and environment committee (since shortened to planning committee) is available here.

But in the 17 months since the proposal was approved, not much has happened. City spokesperson Jocelyne Turner confirmed that the plans are stalled.

“New zoning for the shopping centre’s lands was approved by the former City Council,” she writes in an email. “To date, the company has not submitted a site-plan application.”

Tenants in the mall—in particular, the mall’s west end, where the expansion is focused and which includes Sears, Toys R’ Us, Bluenotes, and West 49—hadn’t heard anything about the start of construction. Nobody at Morguard was available to respond to numerous calls, messages and emails.

The silence from the mall’s ownership says something, at least according to Rideau-Rockcliffe councillor Peter Clark. He suggests that the mall’s management is staying quiet simply because they have nothing new to say.

Clark offered a few updates on the situation, however.

“They have acquired a piece of property across the road from them and they’re thinking about rearranging the road system so that they can do an expansion, but I don’t believe they’ve found the major tenants they’re looking for, so there’s no proposals at the moment,” he says.

He’s referring to rerouting Coventry Road, which currently bends north to skirt around the mall. The city conducted a traffic study as part of the initial review and, according to the Ottawa Sun’s report, “indicated that modifications to signals can handle the volume on the existing roads.”

Clark says that his constituents haven’t voiced any concerns about the potential construction along Coventry Road.

“There’s industrial [zoning] on both sides of it,” he says. “And it doesn’t directly impact any residential areas.”

So without objection from the city or residents, the delay in the mall’s expansion is, according to Clark, self-imposed.

“It’s their choice,” he concludes.
As the commenter "Chris B"pointed out, there is a lot of retail expansions in the books
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Proposed retail expansions in the city are: Rideau Centre, Bayshore, St. Laurent, Trainyards, Tanger and Lansdowne. That is a lot of new retail/tenants
Other factors may include the feds selecting their own sites to build new office space (referring to the 20 story office tower proposed for the St-Laurent expansion) and the impending/current mass layoffs. Furthermore, Morguard already has a lot of OT money tied up in 150 Elgin, that has yet to find any major tenants.

I'm hoping that the Rideau Centre will still announce/start construction on their own major expansion sometime this fall/spring 2013. They have everything going for them in contrast with the other retail projects;

-Shiny new Convention Centre
-Demand for a large new Hotel that could be built into the expansion
-Other hotels to be built in proximity (Re, Germain x 2)
-Hundreds of new condos built near it every year
-Prospect of a new subway station within 5/6 years...
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Old Posted: Jun 29, 2012, 6:04 PM
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I had noticed the mall was (and has been) doing lots of different repairs lately on areas of the mall and parking that were supposed to get torn up in the expansion. It certainly made me think that this thing is not good ahead in the immediate future.

It was likely an issue with either finding tenants or finding financing or some combination of the two.
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Could it also be that Trainyards took a lot more traffic away from St. Laurent than expected?

Also, anyone have any idea when Tanger will get a shovel in the ground?
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Could it also be that Trainyards took a lot more traffic away from St. Laurent than expected?

Also, anyone have any idea when Tanger will get a shovel in the ground?
Good theory about the train yards.

And about Tanger;
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At least part of the complex is expected to be open by 2013 or early 2014.
http://www.ottawasun.com/2011/11/21/...ned-for-kanata
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From Open File Ottawa on June28 2012;



As the commenter "Chris B"pointed out, there is a lot of retail expansions in the books


Other factors may include the feds selecting their own sites to build new office space (referring to the 20 story office tower proposed for the St-Laurent expansion) and the impending/current mass layoffs. Furthermore, Morguard already has a lot of OT money tied up in 150 Elgin, that has yet to find any major tenants.

I'm hoping that the Rideau Centre will still announce/start construction on their own major expansion sometime this fall/spring 2013. They have everything going for them in contrast with the other retail projects;

-Shiny new Convention Centre
-Demand for a large new Hotel that could be built into the expansion
-Other hotels to be built in proximity (Re, Germain x 2)
-Hundreds of new condos built near it every year
-Prospect of a new subway station within 5/6 years...
I have heard that St-Laurent was unable to come to an agreement with Simons, which would have been the major anchor tenant of the new section. This alone might explain why the expansion was put on ice.
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The problem is that the east end has two regional shopping centres splitting business so they cannot become nearly as successful as, say, the Rideau Centre (the hub of the city today) or Bayshore (which dominates the west end).
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The problem is that the east end has two regional shopping centres splitting business so they cannot become nearly as successful as, say, the Rideau Centre (the hub of the city today) or Bayshore (which dominates the west end).
Which one do you consider the second competing creating the split? Place d'Orleans? Gloucester Centre?

The west end also has similar sized malls to the 2 stated above with Carlingwood and Westgate. Although the west end is gaining more population. But still, Orleans and Vanier are also quickly gaining.
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Which one do you consider the second competing creating the split? Place d'Orleans? Gloucester Centre?

The west end also has similar sized malls to the 2 stated above with Carlingwood and Westgate. Although the west end is gaining more population. But still, Orleans and Vanier are also quickly gaining.
Place d'Orleans is the splitting mall, and it is tough to dominate when they are about equal.
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Old Posted: Jul 12, 2012, 5:47 AM
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Place d'Orleans is the splitting mall, and it is tough to dominate when they are about equal.
I'll take your word for it since I've never been there myself.
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Place d'Orleans is the splitting mall, and it is tough to dominate when they are about equal.
Place d'Orléans is definitely the weaker of the two and the gap has widened in St-Laurent's favour in recent years. But it is still big enough to draw some of St-Laurent's clientele away, a situation thay Bayshore does not really face.
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Place d'Orléans is definitely the weaker of the two and the gap has widened in St-Laurent's favour in recent years. But it is still big enough to draw some of St-Laurent's clientele away, a situation thay Bayshore does not really face.
I would have to agree. Based on a series of factors Place D'Orleans has too much square footage and has for a while, hence the office space and large footprint stores (like Sportchek).
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I would have to agree. Based on a series of factors Place D'Orleans has too much square footage and has for a while, hence the office space and large footprint stores (like Sportchek).
I have been a lifelong resident in Orleans, and I can tell you that the major reason why there isn't as many people going to Place d'Orleans was because of the closure of Walmart in 2005 (when it moved to Innes Road).
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I have been a lifelong resident in Orleans, and I can tell you that the major reason why there isn't as many people going to Place d'Orleans was because of the closure of Walmart in 2005 (when it moved to Innes Road).
I fully agree with this.

Place d'Orleans was at its prime when Walmart still operated there. People would come for Walmart and stay for the other stores. Zellers does not draw in the same amount of people at all...
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I fully agree with this.

Place d'Orleans was at its prime when Walmart still operated there. People would come for Walmart and stay for the other stores. Zellers does not draw in the same amount of people at all...
Will a Target be replacing that Zellers?
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Will a Target be replacing that Zellers?
Yes and it will be one of the first Target stores in Ottawa. (probably because that Zeller's was newish and in good condition)
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