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Old Posted: May 16, 2012, 1:14 PM
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North edge of Plateau du Parc. Though given the size of last year's flash flood, they should consider building arks instead.
Obviously they haven't learned any lessons...just imagine if a large-scale catastrophic flood happened...
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Old Posted: May 16, 2012, 11:29 PM
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Obviously they haven't learned any lessons...just imagine if a large-scale catastrophic flood happened...
Maybe they'll just fix it when they will widen the road in a few years. But they should fix that part right away. A section collapsed last summer with the heavy rains. What a nasty looking narrow and bumpy road too.

A billboard is shown right beside the gas station and I believe it is called L'Emerald or something like that. Forgot to remember who is the developer though.
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Old Posted: May 17, 2012, 3:06 AM
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North edge of Plateau du Parc.
Uggh. What is with all the grass? Looking around in Streetview is depressing. There's a lot of relatively dense development in the area, but it is all surrounded by useless dying grass full of dandelions. It's not even like they consolidated it into usable fields and parks, either: no, it just surrounds each structure rather pointlessly.

Here's the ultimate in annoyingly stupid urban design:

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&sourc...130.55,,0,9.51

The building has been set back so far from the street that it needs its own dedicated sidewalk. I suppose it is possible that fifty years' hence when the trees have grown tall and maybe the lawn converted to some kind of garden this might look semi decent, but I wouldn't count on it.

Btw, I say "annoyingly stupid" because the design of the building itself isn't half bad (none of the three sides visible from the street has any vinyl, for instance, and a significant portion of the parking is underground). If it had been brought closer to the street it would actually frame the street with its counterpart across the street. I'd also rearrange the sidewalks and trees and put in some segregated bike lanes since this is a main street of sorts that provides access to the local shopping area, which includes a cinema.
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Uggh. What is with all the grass? Looking around in Streetview is depressing. There's a lot of relatively dense development in the area, but it is all surrounded by useless dying grass full of dandelions. It's not even like they consolidated it into usable fields and parks, either: no, it just surrounds each structure rather pointlessly.
Why do you hate the beautiful, vibrating green space?
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Old Posted: May 17, 2012, 12:05 PM
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Uggh. What is with all the grass? Looking around in Streetview is depressing. There's a lot of relatively dense development in the area, but it is all surrounded by useless dying grass full of dandelions. It's not even like they consolidated it into usable fields and parks, either: no, it just surrounds each structure rather pointlessly.

Here's the ultimate in annoyingly stupid urban design:

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&sourc...130.55,,0,9.51

The building has been set back so far from the street that it needs its own dedicated sidewalk. I suppose it is possible that fifty years' hence when the trees have grown tall and maybe the lawn converted to some kind of garden this might look semi decent, but I wouldn't count on it.

Btw, I say "annoyingly stupid" because the design of the building itself isn't half bad (none of the three sides visible from the street has any vinyl, for instance, and a significant portion of the parking is underground). If it had been brought closer to the street it would actually frame the street with its counterpart across the street. I'd also rearrange the sidewalks and trees and put in some segregated bike lanes since this is a main street of sorts that provides access to the local shopping area, which includes a cinema.
Not that I really want to defend Le Plateau in particular, but there are quite a few parks and fields in the neighbourhood in addition to the wasted space. My wife and I high-tailed it out of there once it became clear that ennui is potentially fatal and that to family and friends, the neighbourhood may as well be on Mars.

The roads there were the most obnoxious part and being people that walk and bus, it was actually annoying to walk to the shopping area because cars went fast, didn't look, and crossing signals were (are) few and far in between.

...and, as we were at what was then the last traffic circle, we were entreated nightly to kids doing donuts around it.
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new subdivision near Jockvale/prince of wales - Uniform Urban and Monarch
http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/cit...3_Jockvale.pdf
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new subdivision near Jockvale/prince of wales - Uniform Urban and Monarch
http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/cit...3_Jockvale.pdf
Are builders in Ottawa congenitally unable to build a rectilinear street?
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[QUOTEnew subdivision near Jockvale/prince of wales - Uniform Urban and Monarch
http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/cit...3_Jockvale.pdf ][/QUOTE]

Man. Having grown up in Manotick, I always wondered when the apple orchard was going to become Barrhaven Southeast, Phase 27. It was obviously inevitable. The owner must have made big bucks with that sale.
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http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/cit...3_Jockvale.pdf ]
Man. Having grown up in Manotick, I always wondered when the apple orchard was going to become Barrhaven Southeast, Phase 27. It was obviously inevitable. The owner must have made big bucks with that sale.
Makes me wish I owned land out there or somewhere else on the fringe!
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http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/cit...3_Jockvale.pdf ]
Man. Having grown up in Manotick, I always wondered when the apple orchard was going to become Barrhaven Southeast, Phase 27. It was obviously inevitable. The owner must have made big bucks with that sale.
Yep, it was sold for $3.4 million.
http://www.juteaujohnsoncomba.com/ms_february2010.htm

Here is the website and the name for the development



http://www.uniformdevelopments.com/orchard/


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Are builders in Ottawa congenitally unable to build a rectilinear street?
Why? That would make it too easy for walkers and cyclists to get around! Now we can't have that in our suburbs! /sarcasm

I don't get the crazy wiggly squiggly layouts the developers have been doing for the past 50 years either. Just look at the Morris Village map just posted. I'm sure it'll be full of houses with identical exterior finishes too.
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Why? That would make it too easy for walkers and cyclists to get around! Now we can't have that in our suburbs! /sarcasm

I don't get the crazy wiggly squiggly layouts the developers have been doing for the past 50 years either. Just look at the Morris Village map just posted. I'm sure it'll be full of houses with identical exterior finishes too.
In that case, the City of Ottawa can do nothing - since it is outside their boundaries!
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In that case, the City of Ottawa can do nothing - since it is outside their boundaries!
True. But it wouldn't be any different within Ottawa's boundaries either.
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Drove past the Longfields Station site in Barrhaven yesterday and saw tree/brush clearing beginning around the sales centre.
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Few relatively minor items coming in the next Planning meeting

http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/cit...20Jockvale.pdf

52 units at the corner of Jockvale and Blackleaf - just a space filler I guest. Would be nice to see some 5 to 10 stories along some parts of Jockvale (of course were it is not too close of the golf course. But it appears that the area would be restricted to no more than two stories.

http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/cit...nth%20Line.pdf

Between Mer Bleue and Tenth Line

Looks like according to the map at the end of the pdf as well as OC Transpo's fall changes related routes 30 and 130 looks like the Blackburn By-Pass Road (now known as Brian Coburn Blvd) is now completed to Mer Bleue. Basically almost all the space between the Hydro Corridor and the future mini-hospital has been fill-out on the north side.
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Few relatively minor items coming in the next Planning meeting

http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/cit...20Jockvale.pdf

52 units at the corner of Jockvale and Blackleaf - just a space filler I guest. Would be nice to see some 5 to 10 stories along some parts of Jockvale (of course were it is not too close of the golf course. But it appears that the area would be restricted to no more than two stories.

http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/cit...nth%20Line.pdf

Between Mer Bleue and Tenth Line

Looks like according to the map at the end of the pdf as well as OC Transpo's fall changes related routes 30 and 130 looks like the Blackburn By-Pass Road (now known as Brian Coburn Blvd) is now completed to Mer Bleue. Basically almost all the space between the Hydro Corridor and the future mini-hospital has been fill-out on the north side.
Jockvale in the Stonebridge area isn't exactly designed for higher densities though. It is not on any rapid transit corridor (existing or planned) and Jockvale likely will remain no more than a 2-lane minor arterial road. Maybe if the course wanted to become a destination, it could be built as a hotel?
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Jockvale in the Stonebridge area isn't exactly designed for higher densities though. It is not on any rapid transit corridor (existing or planned) and Jockvale likely will remain no more than a 2-lane minor arterial road. Maybe if the course wanted to become a destination, it could be built as a hotel?
In the TMP Jockvale/Longfields will be a four lane road from Strandherd to Prince of Wales. here's the EA for the whole stretch from the Jock River to Prince of Wales http://www.ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa...S-PLA-0210.htm Construction is now underway between Longfields/Jockvale and Cambrian/Golf Links http://ottawa.ca/en/city_hall/planni...elds/index.htm
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Higher density is planned around the terminus of the Transitway just west of Longfields and Chapman Mills drive and south of the mall-shopping centre thingy. Next to where Minto is building Ampersand. I think more density is proposed for the intersection of the (future) Greenbank extension and Cambrian Rd.
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