SOHO Italia - Preston | 112M |35 fl| Proposed - Page 17

S-Man · #**321** Posted: **Jun 28, 2012, 1:53 AM**

She understands what???! Grrr!!! No wonder Ken Grey hates/secretly loves her.

McC · #**322** Posted: **Jun 28, 2012, 2:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by S-Man

She understands what???! Grrr!!! No wonder Ken Grey hates/secretly loves her.

Now, now; this isn't the thread for your erotic fan fiction ;-)

Jamaican-Phoenix · #**323** Posted: **Jun 28, 2012, 3:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by m0nkyman

Katherine Hobbs has her head screwed on straight when it comes to urban density. From conversations I've had with her, she's for density when it makes sense, but understands that what matters is what it will do at street level.

Yeah, she continues to prove that I made the right choice in voting for her.

S-Man · #**324** Posted: **Jun 28, 2012, 4:04 AM**

Hey, so did I! Now I live in Dinosaur Holmes' ward. Grrr.

Harley613 · #**325** Posted: **Jun 28, 2012, 4:46 AM**

i love kathobbs. i sent her an email lauding her for her stance on logical densification and she replied an hour later thanking me. great voice on counicl

concernedottawa · #**326** Posted: **Jun 29, 2012, 4:07 PM**

One particular councillor does not a deal make. There is a well established line of granting development in the direction of developers. For those upset at the shadows petition for an actual computer generated time of day effect. Placing towers near rapid transit is the way to go. working with the community and remaining in direct contact with them constantly is something developers need to work on. People hate surprises and dislike being uninformed. Setting expectation levels allows people to accept and influence change.

Uhuniau · #**327** Posted: **Jun 30, 2012, 3:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

So councillors are flipping about the new plain uninspiring design. So why don't they do that with every other uninspiring or even dead ugly designs (LeBreton, Claridge Plazas, Lorne Building 2.0, everything most of what Richcraft does...)?

They have an Ottawa sense of esthetic.

Uhuniau · #**328** Posted: **Jun 30, 2012, 3:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by concernedottawa

Setting expectation levels allows people to accept and influence change.

No matter what level you try to "set" expectations at, the usual gang of flipper-outers will flip out. Every time. That's why you now have developers who want to build a 25-storey building "propose" a 3-zillion one which will plunge the entire Earth into perpetual shade and kill all the children. Then, after phoney consultations, they "compromise" at 25.

This is the rule of the game, set by the NIMBIES themselves, even if only unwittingly.

J.OT13 · #**329** Posted: **Jun 30, 2012, 2:54 PM**

If it's not one tall building, it's several mid height buildings. Downtown Ottawa is the only CBD in the country with ridiculous height restrictions but yet, it's the only one with a continuous 5 block lot line to lot line enclosed canyon.

I'm not saying we need to build skyscrapers everywhere, but definitely around transit stations.

S-Man · #**330** Posted: **Jun 30, 2012, 3:57 PM**

Agreed with what all the smart people just said.

The reason Diane Holmes rants about "concrete canyons" is because of lot line-to-lot line building practices that sprung upout of the height restriction. Get the most amount of floor space for your 19 storeys.

Walk in an American city that built up in the mid-20th century and you'll get a much less canyony streetscape.

12 storey building, 22 storey building, pocket park, 35 storey building, square, 11 storey building, etc. Yes there's height, but there's variation in it and GAPS in the street walls (if you can call it that). Much less oppressive.

OTSkyline · #**331** Posted: **Jun 30, 2012, 11:42 PM**

The new tower is boring and uninspiring (at least it will add height and intensification where it is needed).
I think they should've stuck to the original design (with the waves) but improve the podium itself. Then everyone couldve been happy.... except Diane Holmes (she never is).
As for the height restriction, I am so sick of it. You have Toronto, Montreal & Vancouver with 50, 60 even 70 story towers and event smaller cities than Ottawa like Calgary & London that have tower tallers, but getting a 25-30 tower is the end of the world here...
I dream of a tall diverse Ottawa skyline with inspiring architecture and visit-worthy buildings.

Postmaster · #**332** Posted: **Jul 14, 2012, 12:01 AM**

I keep reading here and there that this and several other proposals have now been approved by the municipality. One paper also called it 'another loss for Diane Holmes'. I figure I would have read about it here first before anywhere else, so I'm doubting what I see in the papers. Anyone have any info?

kevinbottawa · #**333** Posted: **Jul 14, 2012, 3:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Postmaster

I keep reading here and there that this and several other proposals have now been approved by the municipality. One paper also called it 'another loss for Diane Holmes'. I figure I would have read about it here first before anywhere else, so I'm doubting what I see in the papers. Anyone have any info?

It was approved at this week's city council meeting.

Uhuniau · #**334** Posted: **Jul 14, 2012, 3:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by OTSkyline

I dream of a tall diverse Ottawa skyline with inspiring architecture and visit-worthy buildings.

Examples of VWBs?

Postmaster · #**335** Posted: **Jul 14, 2012, 3:26 AM**

Thanks. Seems that the city is pushing things through faster now than before. This many tall proposals approved is practically staggering for Ottawa, I'm hoping it's a sign of good things to come.

Cre47 · #**336** Posted: **Aug 13, 2012, 11:14 PM**

Article in the Citizen about the project being appealed to the OMB (along with the Somerset project)

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Co...252/story.html

kevinbottawa · #**337** Posted: **Aug 14, 2012, 12:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by Cre47

Article in the Citizen about the project being appealed to the OMB (along with the Somerset project)

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Co...252/story.html

I don't feel bad about the Soho Italia. Doesn't seem to be a height issue.

"...the dispute centres on the payment the builder is supposed to make to the city for improvements in the surrounding neighbourhood..."

J.OT13 · #**338** Posted: **Aug 14, 2012, 1:55 AM**

Ya. I was pissed til' I actualy read the article. As for Somerset; as I said before, wouldn't mind cutting a few more floors.

S-Man · #**339** Posted: **Aug 14, 2012, 6:27 AM**

The neighbourhood should get benefit; Glad it isn't a height issue. I'd rather the Somerset one be turned to masonry exterior rather than glass, though.

Ottawan · #**340** Posted: **Aug 14, 2012, 7:00 PM**

From a legal viewpoint the Soho appeal also makes sense to go forward. It seems based on how a very newly implemented rule is to be interpreted, meaning a decision will ensure greater future certainty for future developments.