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Old Posted: Jul 10, 2012, 7:57 PM
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The zombie guy must be joking! He hasn't heard about liability laws or insurance premiums. And they'd have a lot of demo/clean-up to do before anyone would underwrite anything. As for walling off streets, that would cut some useful routes presumably. Also, walls cost money. That's just a start of course. Not the tiniest chance of anything like this happening with several fatal (get it?) flaws in the way.
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Old Posted: Jul 14, 2012, 6:52 PM
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After what has been about three years, it looks like Hantz Farms is going to take off pretty soon.....
My only concern is that of all the land in the city, and all of the empty areas they are talking about downsizing, they choose a rather active node on the east side...
The map shows the east side of Van Dyke as part of the area concerned. That kind of pisses me off because Van Dyke, at least south of Kercheval, looks like a viable neighborhood.
Unless it's changed a lot in the last 3-4 years.
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Old Posted: Jul 14, 2012, 7:31 PM
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Half of Detroit’s Streetlights May Go Out as City Shrinks


May 24, 2012

By Chris Christoff
Just thought I'd share this observation from International Space Station. You can almost see the Detroit city boundaries in this photo because of it's old public lighting system. The lights of the city give off a bluish white glow that is surrounded by the ubiquitous yellow glow of sodium vapor lighting.



Photo from December 9, 2010 by the Expedition 26 crew of the International Space Station
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Old Posted: Jul 15, 2012, 5:50 AM
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Here's a question, what would you do with the vacant land here?

I sort of assume this would easily become a new residential neighborhood typical of riverfront development, no? This is somewhat typical of Detroit's core neighborhoods which really exemplifies just how complicated this situation is.









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Old Posted: Jul 16, 2012, 5:02 AM
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Obviously, anything south of Jefferson is too valuable - or will eventually be too valuable - to repackage as anything beneath an urban reuse. So, I don't think these kind of obvious plots are complicated. The only complicated land reuse are those empty lots formerly occupied by detached single-family homes. Detroit's early city planning, or lack there of, is coming back to haunt it in this regard. I'd always said things would be way more easy for the city if even just the single-family stuff had been attached units.
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Old Posted: Jul 16, 2012, 5:41 AM
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The Globe Trading Company building is being redeveloped into a sort of "Welcome Center" for Michigan's State Park system. The idea for Rivertown is to put low/mid-rise buildings closer to the river, and high-rise buildings closer to Jefferson.
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Old Posted: Jul 23, 2012, 2:54 AM
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That's how I would envision the Rivertown area, a sort of stair-stepped effect with shorter buildings near the river and taller ones set back...
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Old Posted: Jul 26, 2012, 2:53 PM
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10,000 workers transferred to downtown Detroit in last 2 years

I didn't realize there had been so many workers brought down there. That's the equivalent of a couple of 40 story towers, right?

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Even downtown Detroit's biggest boosters agreed Wednesday that the city's core remains in the early stages of its revival.

Dan Gilbert, after welcoming 1,500 employees of a Gilbert-affiliated company called Title Source to their new downtown home in the First National Building, told reporters, "I certainly don't think we're anywhere mid-or-late in the game. I still (think) we're early."

Many others would agree. Even though about 10,000 new workers have transferred downtown from the suburbs in the past two years, much more remains to be done.

Still to come: The light-rail systems that Gilbert and other business leaders envision running along Woodward Avenue roughly from Jefferson Avenue to New Center. Federal transportation authorities who would pay for most of the system have demanded more information from the proposal's backers on who would pay for the system before giving their go-ahead.

Then, too, residential rental rates remain low enough, despite shortages of apartments, that developers say they still need tax credits and other financial incentives from the city, county, or state to make new development feasible. Indeed, already completed projects like the Westin Book Cadillac Hotel, which reopened in late 2010 after a quarter-century closed, have struggled financially.

Yet positive signs abound. Gilbert, founder and chair of Quicken Loans, said the number of employees of Quicken and affiliated firms who have transferred downtown will hit 6,500 once all of Title Source's 1,500 workers come downtown from their offices in Troy in coming months.

In addition, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan has transferred 3,000 suburban-based staffers downtown over the past year or so. And other firms, including DTE Energy, General Motors and GalaxE Solutions, have moved smaller numbers of employees downtown.

Estimates by the regional planning agency SEMCOG and the civic group Downtown Detroit Partnership say that the central business district and nearby Eastern Market and east riverfront now see about 77,000 workers each day. Add in workers at Midtown's hospitals and Wayne State University and workers in the New Center district and the greater downtown workforce swells to about 135,000.

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For a metro as large as Detroit, 135,000 isn't a huge number in that amount of space, but a 2-year, 10,000 worker increase in the square mile of downtown Detroit probably hasn't happened since mid-20th century.
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Actually, I'd say 135,000 is a fairly decent number for a roughly 5 sq. mi. area.
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Vacant Detroit becomes dumping ground for the dead

Vacant Detroit becomes dumping ground for the dead



Abandoned lots, alleys and neglected parks in Detroit used to be a favorite destination for discarded tires and trash. But over the past few months they have become dumping grounds for the dead.

By COREY WILLIAMS

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48482538#.UBwOY01mScw

updated 8/3/2012 9:18:38 AM ET

DETROIT — From the street, the two decomposing bodies were nearly invisible, concealed in an overgrown lot alongside worn-out car tires and a moldy sofa. The teenagers had been shot, stripped to their underwear and left on a deserted block.

They were just the latest victims of foul play whose remains went undiscovered for days after being hidden deep inside Detroit's vast urban wilderness — a crumbling wasteland rarely visited by outsiders and infrequently patrolled by police.

Abandoned and neglected parts of the city are quickly becoming dumping grounds for the dead — at least a dozen bodies in 12 months' time. And authorities acknowledge there's little they can do.

"You can shoot a person, dump a body and it may just go unsolved" because of the time it may take for the corpse to be found, officer John Garner said.
The bodies have been purposely hidden or discarded in alleys, fields, vacant houses, abandoned garages and even a canal. Seven of the victims are believed to have been slain outside Detroit and then dumped within the city.

It's a pattern made possible by more than four decades of urban decay and suburban flight. White residents started moving to burgeoning suburbs in the 1950s, then stepped up their exodus after a deadly 1967 race riot. Detroit's black middle class followed over the next two decades, leaving block after block of empty homes.

Over time, tens of thousands of houses deteriorated. Some collapsed, others were demolished. Empty lots gave way to block-long fields.

Jacob Kudla and Jourdan Bobbish were found July 27 in a field off Lyford Street, a lonely road that borders an industrial area and a small municipal airport. The teens from suburban Westland, 18 and 17, respectively, had been visiting Kudla's uncle in Detroit when they disappeared July 22.

Their corpses were found by someone walking along the desolate block. The closest house, about 100 yards away, belongs to 74-year-old Ella Dunn.

In mid-July, the decapitated bodies of a couple were pulled from the Detroit River and a nearby canal. Authorities say they were shot and dismembered in their home in suburban Allen Park, then driven to a little-used Detroit park and dumped in the water. A man who lived with them is charged in the slayings.
The bodies of two Hamtramck women were discovered in March buried in a neglected Detroit park. Five men are accused in the murders.

Back in December, the bodies of two women were found in a car parked near a vacant house. Six days later, the badly burned remains of two other women turned up in a car trunk. Police believe all were killed elsewhere and dumped in Detroit. A man from suburban Sterling Heights has been charged.

Detroit has more than 30,000 vacant houses, and the deficit-strangled city has no resources of its own to level them. Mayor Dave Bing is promoting a plan to tear down as many as possible using federal money. The state is also contributing to the effort.

But it's hard to keep up. About a quarter-million people moved out of Detroit between 2000 and 2010, leaving just over 700,000 residents in a city built for 2 million.

A larger police presence is needed across the city, but Detroit can't afford to hire more. The city recently cut police pay by 10 percent.

When he joined the department 13 years ago, Garner patrolled a 3.6-square-mile area in the tough 3rd Precinct, bumping into another officer every 20 minutes. Now he covers 22 square miles and crosses paths with other officers "maybe once every two hours."

"If we know this, the criminals know this," Garner said.

Sparse patrols and slow response times make it less likely that someone will be seen dumping a body.

"Years back, people would go to rural areas" to dump bodies, said Daniel Kennedy, a Michigan-based forensic criminologist. "Now we have rural areas in urban areas."

The body of a woman from wealthy Grosse Pointe Park was found in January in her Mercedes-Benz SUV in a Detroit alley. The marketing executive was apparently killed in the garage of her upscale suburban home, but left in the city. A family handyman has been charged.
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Old Posted: Aug 4, 2012, 1:02 AM
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Ewe new!

Yeah that happens in all industrial cities with massive brownfields.
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Old Posted: Aug 4, 2012, 1:14 AM
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Now I truly know why people here hate the suburbs. Detroit has obiviously been the main victim out of all the rust belt cities, although there's other reasons.
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Hopefully one day Detroit can go through a rejuvenation program. This is sad.
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Now I truly know why people here hate the suburbs. Detroit has obiviously been the main victim out of all the rust belt cities, although there's other reasons.
There is more to it than this...
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Old Posted: Aug 4, 2012, 1:48 AM
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Ewe new!

Yeah that happens in all industrial cities with massive brownfields.
I don't think it is happening like it is in Detroit though. I've been there a number of times, but I'm certainly not familiar enough with Detroit to know for sure. Though it seems to me that Detroit has significantly larger areas of absolute abandonment than other old industrial cities.

Losing a quarter million people in the last decade and having over 30,000 vacant houses is almost unbelievable.
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We have entire quarter surrounding East St Louis too. Totally primed for dead body's. Suck it Detroit!
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I actually care for the night-culture of Detroit a lot and am jealous of it.
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Countdown to post-industrial horror movie in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2..
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Old Posted: Aug 4, 2012, 4:43 PM
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Vacant Detroit becomes dumping ground for the dead
That makes me very sad.

I keep hearing about good things that are happening in or around Detroit. About new jobs, new businesses and other stuff. And then at the same time I keep hearing about sad things like this. I really hope things get better sooner than later in Detroit.
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