Rogers Arena Complex | 104M,100M, 97M | U/C & Proposed - Page 18

Track · #**341** Posted: **Jul 18, 2012, 3:22 AM**

I suppose that we still have Pacific Colosseum for the arena shows that wont go to Rogers now, but its not a great trade off; Rogers Arena is by far the most easily accessible location for large scale concerts, as both Pacific Colosseum and Deer Lake Park require a bus trip and a walk from the nearest skytrain stop.

Though, can someone tell me why, exactly, they'll have to decrease the number of concerts at Rogers? If, lets say, 5 concerts are allowed, why not 6? As long as each individual show doesn't violate the noise laws, then I can't see why the amount of them would really matter.

jlousa · #**342** Posted: **Jul 18, 2012, 3:24 AM**

I would imagine that the low end hotel in Tokyo might of had punched windows that didn't open and was instead air conditioned. Having reduced window area keeps noise down as does having sealed windows. Train noise also blends into background noise and doesn't penetrate very well, bet if a freight train were to blow it's horn you'd have heard it pretty clearly though. Anyone that's had a beer or two at the Alibi Room will know that the trains passing by are incredibly quiet, shockingly so infact. I think the issue with this development won't be Canuck games but the noise of the crowds leaving the event all at once hollering like drunken banshees. Concerts will probably be a problem with heavy bass as it just travels throught objects and nothing but distance can do much to stop it. Maybe gluing a couple of layers of DynaMat to the ceiling of Rogers Arena would help.

quobobo · #**343** Posted: **Jul 18, 2012, 1:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by jlousa

I would imagine that the low end hotel in Tokyo might of had punched windows that didn't open and was instead air conditioned. Having reduced window area keeps noise down as does having sealed windows.

Thanks!

The windows were pretty small (although they did open). I suppose that small windows in highrises really aren't going to fly in Vancouver though...

golog · #**344** Posted: **Jul 18, 2012, 2:50 PM**

It's not just Roger's Arena causing noise in that area though: Concord's tax exempt empty lots hosting marathons or other events, false creek dragon boat, BC Place games/conventions/concerts with an open roof, traffic on the viaducts or Pacific Blvd, ...

So whatever they do, it should have to be of high enough quality that programming decisions at Rogers Arena remain a separate matter.

Office space works best because they're mostly occupied during working hours on weekdays and the people are long gone when the noise peaks during evenings or weekends.

I would like to see some kind of cohesive vision for the area (Aquilini, Concord, Plaza of Nations owner, City of Vancouver, Pavco) like happened in LA or Toronto, whichever way that needs to go for everyone to pull in the same direction.

My idea would be to build some kind of market (along the lines of Granville Island, farmer's market, Chinese night markets) underneath the viaducts. It works whatever they do to the viaducts. It complements the immediate surroundings all the time, and probably would be well used by people downtown and around east false creek. It gives a pedestrian anchor to the area without forcing the VAG to move there to call it an entertainment district. It would probably be a boost to selling condos next door to it.

I think the city is just upset because they were planning to use the condo money to build part of that grand staircase to the waterfront from Georgia. If they really cared though, they'd make Concord pay tax on the land by assessing it correctly or get them to build the new park now even if they are going to wait on the towers. That land hasn't even been used for paid parking in years.

Sir Conga · #**345** Posted: **Jul 18, 2012, 8:56 PM**

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If they really cared though, they'd make Concord pay tax on the land by assessing it correctly or get them to build the new park now even if they are going to wait on the towers. That land hasn't even been used for paid parking in years.

I couldn't agree more. I cannot believe the situation that is allowed to exist, given the history.

I also agree with a common sentiment here; the city needs to have a cohesive vision for the area. An entertainment-focused area is a great idea, and should not be diminished by this city's fixation on mixed-use residential.

Metro-One · #**346** Posted: **Jul 19, 2012, 4:23 AM**

I wish this city council was a strong headed in regards to creating and preserving a true entertainment district as they are in building bike lanes and tearing down useful infrastructure.

And I agree that the fixation on mixed use residential has gone to far, it has become obvious that it is better to have minimal to no residence in certain localities in a downtown area, such as entertainment zones and select commercial areas. In these areas, the mix should be restricted to retail, office, hotel, commercial, entertainment. No need for residents!

red-paladin · #**347** Posted: **Jul 20, 2012, 8:01 PM**

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3 rental towers approved for Vancouver's Rogers Arena
CBC News
Posted: Jul 20, 2012 10:03 AM PT
Last Updated: Jul 20, 2012 11:43 AM PT

Vancouver council has approved a plan by the owners of the Canucks to build three residential and commercial towers next to Rogers Arena — the city's largest rental housing project in 40 years.

The Aquilini Investment Group says complex will include 614 rental condos, and rents are expected to range from $1,200 to $2,000.

Some rental groups have already criticized the project, saying the rates are too high for people on welfare, and there are no social housing units in the plan.

But Counc. Kerry Jang says the city needs a range of rental housing. ...

From http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...vancouver.html

easy as pie · #**348** Posted: **Jul 20, 2012, 8:08 PM**

wow, $1200-2000 range on those rental units, that's kind of incredible. really really nice to see that, hopefully this works out for aquilini (having what amounts to free land doesn't hurt) and more developers can find ways to make affordable rental projects pencil.

TwoFace · #**349** Posted: **Jul 20, 2012, 8:13 PM**

Great news for Renters.
With these 614 condos coming on stream and also the existing 234 at the new Pacific Palisades (Robson St), I can see the rental inventory prices getting lower through competition and more affordable throughout the City Core.

sacrifice333 · #**350** Posted: **Jul 20, 2012, 8:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by red-paladin

From http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...vancouver.html

Do we know if these are strata-fied rental units?

hankthetank · #**351** Posted: **Jul 20, 2012, 9:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by red-paladin

From http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...vancouver.html

Seems like a pretty good deal. I'm moving to Calgary in September to do my Master's in Environmental Design and all 2 bedroom/1 bathroom condos are going for at least $1200. And those are 30 year old places in need of updating, and not even located downtown.

Maybe someone should post a better rendering for the thread? And change the status to Under Construction? Exciting project!

hollywoodnorth · #**352** Posted: **Jul 20, 2012, 10:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by red-paladin

From http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...vancouver.html

The largest rental project in the city's history was Langara Gardens, which was built in the early 70's.

WOW talk about sad that its taken 40 years for a project of this size to happen again ......

Jebby · #**353** Posted: **Jul 22, 2012, 10:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by red-paladin

From http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...vancouver.html

Comments on the article are pathetic.

BodomReaper · #**354** Posted: **Jul 23, 2012, 6:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

Comments on the article are pathetic.

Fixed that for you!

Built Form · #**355** Posted: **Aug 21, 2012, 9:24 AM**

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Klazu · #**356** Posted: **Sep 16, 2012, 10:02 PM**

I drove by today and they were erecting a tower crane on the street. This project will be interesting to follow, as the lot is very small and working in such a location will require special arrangement.