Trans Canada Highway Twinning: Segments U/C

[sonysnob]

Originally Posted by jmt18325

I never would have guessed.

I've driven Hwy 17 between Sudbury and the Soo a few times, and I'd say that most of it is a pretty comfortable drive even as a two lane highway. Between Massey and Sudbury, the highway gets pretty busy, and should be improved. Sudbury to North Bay is a pretty miserable section of the TCH, particularly immediately east of Sudbury. That section should be higher on the priority list for sure.

[bulliver]

There is a wildlife overpass on 97C in BC, just west of Peachland.

[Andrewjm3D]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

It's a good idea in Northern Ontario. All future extensions of 11, 17 and 69 should incorporate them, especially in key sections. Would logs in the middle of the road approaching the freeway (as in the mountain parks) also be useful, especially on less-travelled approach roads?

Ya, I had a close call with a 1200lb Bull Moose on hwy 11 near Burks Falls.

[Dmajackson]

Nova Scotia has a couple of animal underpasses on its portion of the Trans-Canada. From what I've read they are all located along the Cobequid Pass and while they don't look like the western versions they do seem to keep the moose off of the highway for the most part (theres been a few fatalities since '97 but nothings perfect). I haven't seen one in person head on but they seem to be over-sized culverts with skylights installed in the median area along with the standard wildlife fencing. It's basically a 1990's rough-looking, cheapened version of the ones going up in the Rockies.

[VANRIDERFAN]

Originally Posted by Dmajackson

Nova Scotia has a couple of animal underpasses on its portion of the Trans-Canada. From what I've read they are all located along the Cobequid Pass and while they don't look like the western versions they do seem to keep the moose off of the highway for the most part (theres been a few fatalities since '97 but nothings perfect). I haven't seen one in person head on but they seem to be over-sized culverts with skylights installed in the median area along with the standard wildlife fencing. It's basically a 1990's rough-looking, cheapened version of the ones going up in the Rockies.

Designed and built by Red Green and the crew at Possum Lodge?

[Dwils01]

Here is a little more info on the twinning of hwy 69 to become hwy 400.
They have completed the divided hwy from Sudbury to Estaire in 2009 which is just under 30km.
They are suppose to open another section just south of Estaire this year which would be about 10 to 15km.
This section is still called hwy 69 until this stretch of divided hwy meets the southern portion. I think it was suppose to be completed in 2017.

Hwy 400 now goes to mile marker 245 instead of ending just north of 224. I think this part opended in October 2010.
The length from 224 to hwy 17 is about 160km. After the new section is open, there will still be 100 to 95km left to divide.

I can't wait for it to be done because the 69 sucks. There is always bad weather in the winter because of the lake effect snow and there is too much traffic for only a two lane highway.

[worried man]

Highway 185 in Quebec: has anyone wondered what is the deal that this section of highway is still such a mess? Building the Canadian railway system through the Rockies in the 1800s was done largely with manual labour wasn't it? Improving this highway, which some say has accumulated about 150 deaths due to accidents in 15 years (for a 100 km section) seems a much smaller project. How many plastic traffic cones and reflectors on posts has federal money paid for to mark the unfinished merge lanes and missing road shoulders for the past 10 years or so, without laying down a noticeable amount of road?

[le calmar]

^ They should be finished twinning Highway 185 in 5-6 years (because they have been working on it for at least the past 3 years)

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by worried man

Highway 185 in Quebec: has anyone wondered what is the deal that this section of highway is still such a mess? Building the Canadian railway system through the Rockies in the 1800s was done largely with manual labour wasn't it? Improving this highway, which some say has accumulated about 150 deaths due to accidents in 15 years (for a 100 km section) seems a much smaller project. How many plastic traffic cones and reflectors on posts has federal money paid for to mark the unfinished merge lanes and missing road shoulders for the past 10 years or so, without laying down a noticeable amount of road?

It's a billion-dollar project.

If you can read French this page has the details:
http://www.mtq.gouv.qc.ca/portal/pag...ment_r185#cout

And under Couts du projet you have how much the feds are contributing for each section.

[toaster]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

Sudbury to Sault Ste. Marie has more traffic than the least-used section in the Ottawa Valley (from Mattawa to Deep River).

Where can I go to see these traffic count numbers?

[eternallyme]

Originally Posted by toaster

Where can I go to see these traffic count numbers?

http://www.raqsb.mto.gov.on.ca/techp...umes.nsf/tvweb

It's 4 years old though.

[canarob]

Originally Posted by worried man

Highway 185 in Quebec: has anyone wondered what is the deal that this section of highway is still such a mess? Building the Canadian railway system through the Rockies in the 1800s was done largely with manual labour wasn't it? Improving this highway, which some say has accumulated about 150 deaths due to accidents in 15 years (for a 100 km section) seems a much smaller project. How many plastic traffic cones and reflectors on posts has federal money paid for to mark the unfinished merge lanes and missing road shoulders for the past 10 years or so, without laying down a noticeable amount of road?

I drove the entire length of 185 yesterday and there's lots of work being done (sorry, no pics since I was driving). I drive through about once a year and progress seems slow and steady. I'll be very happy once this and Autoroute 30 are both competed! I love Quebec but driving in it can be the stuff of nightmares.

[sonysnob]

I was looking at the project map for A-85 and I am surprised just how much of it is already built. I bet it's a nice road once its all done, I remember it as a fairly hilly part of the province.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by sonysnob

I was looking at the project map for A-85 and I am surprised just how much of it is already built. I bet it's a nice road once its all done, I remember it as a fairly hilly part of the province.

Yes, the Témiscouata region that is runs through is quite picturesque.

It is not even close to Calgary-Vancouver but for eastern Canada it is a complex and expensive area to build a highway in.

[toaster]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

http://www.raqsb.mto.gov.on.ca/techp...umes.nsf/tvweb

It's 4 years old though.

Thank you!

[toaster]

http://www.saultstar.com/2012/07/26/...ighway-17-bill

[eternallyme]

Most likely the cost of the entire Highway 17 corridor would be over $20 billion, perhaps $25 billion. The highest cost would be in the Sault Ste. Marie-Wawa and Marathon-Nipigon sections, in each probably over $25 million per kilometre (if not more).

[MonctonRad]

New Brunswick has announced that the final 2.7 km stretch of the TCH between Edmunston and the Quebec border will be twinned by 2014. When this is done, the entire 514 km of the TCH in NB will be twinned at freeway standard.

Also Route 1 between the Maine border at St Stephen and it's junction with Route 2 (the TCH) at Riverglade will be entirely twinned by the end of this year or early next year. This is about another 200 km of highway.

[theshark]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Yes, the Témiscouata region that is runs through is quite picturesque.

It is not even close to Calgary-Vancouver but for eastern Canada it is a complex and expensive area to build a highway in.

especially with all the expropriation cost!!!

The last portion of highway 2 in NB should be completed by the fall of 2014
(2.7km from Edmundston to Qc border).......and Moncton Rad beats me by 5 mins lol

[Wharn]

Originally Posted by Dwils01

Here is a little more info on the twinning of hwy 69 to become hwy 400.
They have completed the divided hwy from Sudbury to Estaire in 2009 which is just under 30km.
They are suppose to open another section just south of Estaire this year which would be about 10 to 15km.
This section is still called hwy 69 until this stretch of divided hwy meets the southern portion. I think it was suppose to be completed in 2017.

Hwy 400 now goes to mile marker 245 instead of ending just north of 224. I think this part opended in October 2010.
The length from 224 to hwy 17 is about 160km. After the new section is open, there will still be 100 to 95km left to divide.

The section near Estaire kinda sucks, feels like it was a rush project. I'm going to be driving to Killarney next week, so I'll get an update on the work south of Highway 637 and maybe get my co-pilot to take a few pictures.

Originally Posted by Dwils01

I can't wait for it to be done because the 69 sucks. There is always bad weather in the winter because of the lake effect snow and there is too much traffic for only a two lane highway.

My boss actually lost his father to Highway 69, somewhere near the intersection with the 637. A pickup truck wandered into his lane on a blind curve, frontal offset, killed him instantly. The 69 is dangerous as hell, frankly it's a disgrace that the 400 isn't already finished.