City Murder Rates

[Clevelumbus]

San Jose, Calif. is at 23

[Jelly Roll]

Originally Posted by lextown

There's now talk again about a countywide police force. Right now, there are about 250 police officers in Camden, after recent layoffs depleted the force and diluted the morale.

A countywide force, officials say, could put more than 400 officers on the street.

Last week, Mayor Dana Redd said she was going to push for a quicker resolution on the question of a countywide police force. She's hoping to get an answer by August, Keeley reported live from Camden on Monday morning.

The "County" police force is going to only service Camden City as every single other municipality voted to keep their current police forces and opt out of the county force. The "County" police is just a way for Camden City to layoff the current police officers and then hire back a new police force for a fraction of the cost. The other towns already voted that they want no part of a county wide police force.

[MayorOfChicago]

Originally Posted by J. Will

Yikes! That's a rather dubious distinction. A higher murder rate than cities in Mexico and Brazil even.

Chicago's a tricky one. The circumstances of the gang violence here run very deep and are hard to root out. They're also mostly isolated in areas with around 7% of the metro area's population. 70% of all murders tend to be gang related. The murder rates for the other 93% of the metro averages about 2.6 per 100,000.

It's a tough subject here. It's so easy for everyone to just ignore the extreme violence because it hits only a small group of people - but of course that doesn't mean anything for all the people stuck in those neighborhoods. They tend to be some of the poorest and lease dense areas of the city.

[tech12]

45 for SF, after a fatal shooting in the Portola District:

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-...-injure/nP7zt/

[LMich]

Originally Posted by MayorOfChicago

Chicago's a tricky one. The circumstances of the gang violence here run very deep and are hard to root out. They're also mostly isolated in areas with around 7% of the metro area's population. 70% of all murders tend to be gang related. The murder rates for the other 93% of the metro averages about 2.6 per 100,000.

I know you went on to qualify all of that with the fact that it matters to the people in those neighborhoods, but how is this different than almost any other city listed (i.e. violence concentrated heavily in certain areas)? I see people bring up this talking point all of the time as if it's unique to their city/metro, and that's almost never the case. Murder in modern cities is almost always a hyper-local phenomenon, so constantly bringing up that murders "only" happen in so-and-so a neighborhood seems kind of silly/irrelevant.

[nito]

Originally Posted by Minato Ku

Why ? It is the data of the inner city as long you go includes further the periphery, the murder rate decline (except for Seine Saint Denis)
If we look the data for Ile de France, it is about 2 murder for 100,000 inhabitants.
The murder rate for France is under 1 per 100,000 inhabitants with 743 homicide in 2011.

If the rate was 743, with a population of 63.46mn, wouldn't the rate be 1.17 per 100,000? How does that compare to Germany and Italy?

How many murders were committed in the Île-de-France?

[nei]

copying and pasting from another forum:

Chicago via user Chicago 60614:

We're very isolated when it comes to murders. 66% of murders happen in 20% of the 77 official neighborhoods. Splitting it down more:

The Good

Districts with 16% of the city's population had 1% of the murders (1.6/100,000).

Districts with 33% of the city's population dealt with 5% of the murders (2.5/100,000).

Districts with 50% of the city's population dealt with 11% of the murders (3.6/100,000).

The Bad

Districts with 2% of the city's population dealt with 12% of the murders (70.0/100,000).

Districts with 5% of the city's population dealt with 21% of the murders (66.7/100,000)

Districts with 9% of the city's population dealt with 32% of the murders (55.2/100,000).

Districts with 17% of the city's population dealt with 50% of the murders.

Districts with 32% of the city's population dealt with 75% of the murders (37.9/100,000).

Districts with 40% of the city's population dealt with 84% of the murders.[/quote]

Done for New York City (by me)

Good

Districts with 16% of the city's population had 1.8% of the murders (0.7/100,000)

Districts with 33% of the city's population had 6.4% of the murders (1.2/100,000)

Districts with 49% of the city's population had 13.7% of the murders (1.7/100,000)

The Bad

Districts with 2% of the city's population dealt with 9.4% of the murders (26.4/100,000).

Districts with 5% of the city's population dealt with 17.5% of the murders (21.1/100,000)

Districts with 10% of the city's population dealt with 29% of the murders (17.9/100,000).

Districts with 20% of the city's population dealt with 51% of the murders.
(15.6/100,000)

Districts with 40% of the city's population dealt with 80% of the murders.
(11.7/100,000)

Of course certain pockets in a precinct, often housing projects might be much worse. For example, the largest housing project in NYC (and now in the country after Chicago tore down its projects), the Queensbridge Houses, recorded a murder rate in the mid 40s per 100,000 in one year. But the district it's (Long Island City) in is quite safe (murder rate 2.4 per 100,000). Almost all the murders occurring in that precinct were in the Queensbridge Houses.

NYC housing projects recorded a murder rate (18.2) 3 times higher than the city in 2010 as a whole and there's a large variation within projects.

Chicago takes up a smaller % of its metro than NYC, so the difference between the two is smaller looking at the metro overall. By metro, NYC has a murder rate of 4.0 and Chicago 6.5.

[oshkeoto]

^ Where do those statistics from New York come from? Were there ones posted from any other cities?

[J. Will]

Originally Posted by LMich

I know you went on to qualify all of that with the fact that it matters to the people in those neighborhoods, but how is this different than almost any other city listed (i.e. violence concentrated heavily in certain areas)?

It's not. In every major city murders and violent crime are concentrated in certain areas. That includes the cities with the lowest murder rates.

[MayorOfChicago]

Originally Posted by LMich

I know you went on to qualify all of that with the fact that it matters to the people in those neighborhoods, but how is this different than almost any other city listed (i.e. violence concentrated heavily in certain areas)? I see people bring up this talking point all of the time as if it's unique to their city/metro, and that's almost never the case. Murder in modern cities is almost always a hyper-local phenomenon, so constantly bringing up that murders "only" happen in so-and-so a neighborhood seems kind of silly/irrelevant.

In Chicago that "violence heavily concentrated in certain areas" has 500,000-600,000 people, and the homicide rate in that area is over 50/100,000.

The sheer impact of that throws the murder rates for the city up a LOT, even though the other 2,200,000 people in the city have rates of around 3-4/100,000. Chicago's crazy areas are larger than most cities.

[lextown]

Originally Posted by Thundertubs

Yikes. Most cities the size of Camden would consider 13 killings an awful year.

That's a fact. Im glad i dont live there that's all i got to say.

[i_am_hydrogen]

Chicago's murder rate declined over the month of July, not by much. But still slightly encouraging:
http://www.policeone.com/chiefs-sher...n-murder-rate/

[UpNorthMI]

42 Homicides for Flint after another double-murder on the cities northside.

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/inde...ing_dou_3.html

2010 36
2011 33
2012 42

[Dralcoffin]

The good news? July 2012 saw fewer homicides than July 2011, dropping the yearly change a full five percent from two weeks ago. The bad news? We are so far ahead from the winter and spring that we would need an historically quiet fall and winter just to break even at this point.

Chicago

Through this morning, August 7:

2012: 318 (13 in past week)

2011: 255 (11 in past week)

Yearly change: +24.7%

Population: 2,707,120

Murder rate per 100,000: 11.75

Red Eye's Homicide tracker

[nei]

New York City

2012: 235

2011: 282

Yearly change: -16.7%

as of July 29

Murder rate: 2.87

For the whole year if the same pattern continues: 4.91

[scoob]

McKeesport, Pennsylvania (7)
Population 19,731
Per 100,000: 35.4

Wilkinsburg, Pennsylvania (7)
Population 15,930
Per 100,000: 43.9

McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania (5)
Population 6,104
Per 100,000: 81.9

Pittsburgh Pennsylvania (23)
Population 305,704
Per 100,000: 7.5

[scoob]

Youngstown Ohio (19)
Population 66,982
Per 100,000: 28.3

Toledo Ohio (19)
Population 287,208
Per 100,000: 6.6

Columbus Ohio (61)
Population 787,033
Per 100,000: 7.7

Akron Ohio (16)
Population 199,110
Per 100,000: 8.0

Canton Ohio (4)
Population 73,007
Per 100,000: 5.4

[Darkoshvilli]

Montreal (1.95m) has 16 after a shooting in a mall parking lot.

[J. Will]

Toronto is at 33 murders, up from 31 this time last year.

Murders by year, Toronto:

2008: 70
2009: 62
2010: 62
2011: 50
2012 (to date): 33

[lextown]

stockton ca is at 43.