Favourite Scotiabank Regional Offices

[Chadillaccc]

I just absolutely looove the Bank of Nova Scotia headquarters in Toronto not only because the primary tower is the nicest building in Canada, but also the shorter building was one of the last if not the last true art deco major skyscraper ever built. Such a beautiful combination.

Originally Posted by Ramako

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[SignalHillHiker]

The Toronto one is beautiful. I love the unusual colour.

One more photo of the St. John's one, taken by me this morning. I consider this building quite nice for a 1980s structure in a small (and, at that time, anything but wealthy) city.

[Chadillaccc]

It is quite nice.

[Jstaleness]

I'll see if I can get some interior shots of the Halifax Office. A lot of design additions that are missing from the modern office towers.

[SignalHillHiker]

Two more of the one in St. John's.

One of the Downtown Buskers Festival today at Scotia Plaza:



And of the St. John's returning to port:

[haligonia]

Toronto (Either one; they both blow most other buildings in the country out of the water.)
Halifax
Montreal
Winnipeg
Vancouver

[roccerfeller]

Toronto, in my opinion, is the best of the bunch.

Halifax has to get second dibs.

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

The Toronto one is beautiful. I love the unusual colour.

One more photo of the St. John's one, taken by me this morning. I consider this building quite nice for a 1980s structure in a small (and, at that time, anything but wealthy) city.

Yeah its really nice looking for sure...and looks like it could go toe-to-toe with the one in Regina, or Ottawa any day. An accomplishment, certainly, considering not only when it was built (rough period for St John's) but also that Regina is 2x the size of St Johns and Ottawa 10x. Its always cool to see something like that.

Plus the backdrop against the bay is awesome.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by roccerfeller

An accomplishment, certainly, considering not only when it was built (rough period for St John's) but also that Regina is 2x the size of St Johns and Ottawa 10x. Its always cool to see something like that.

St. John's is right around 200,000. It is about the same size as Regina.

[SignalHillHiker]

Originally Posted by someone123

St. John's is right around 200,000. It is about the same size as Regina.

Added detail: St. John's CMA is 198,000 as of the 2011 census. That includes all the suburbs. The city itself is 106,000.

[Andy6]

Scotiabank has the little podium in front of Winnipeg's Commodity Exchange Tower (or whatever they're calling it now that there is no more Commodity Exchange). I wouldn't award it the entire 30+ storey skyscraper as well. There are virtually no regional office bank jobs in Winnipeg anymore so essentially these downtown locations today are just glorified bank branches.

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by someone123

St. John's is right around 200,000. It is about the same size as Regina.

Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

Added detail: St. John's CMA is 198,000 as of the 2011 census. That includes all the suburbs. The city itself is 106,000.

Ah thanks guys. didn't realize. I was thinking of city proper, but I stand corrected. Still, its pretty impressive for St Johns

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by Andy6

Scotiabank has the little podium in front of Winnipeg's Commodity Exchange Tower (or whatever they're calling it now that there is no more Commodity Exchange). I wouldn't award it the entire 30+ storey skyscraper as well. There are virtually no regional office bank jobs in Winnipeg anymore so essentially these downtown locations today are just glorified bank branches.

Artis has the signage rights currently for that tower. The "Commodity Exchange" still exists (its under ICE which is a very large American commodity exchange company) but they no longer have any presence in that tower anymore...I think their head office is somewhere on Kenaston or Pembina or Lagimodiere or something now...somewhere in the south... I'm not sure if thats what you meant by no more commodity exchange (i.e. no longer in that building)

But yeah none of the banks really have any of their historical presence in Winnipeg anymore, and I don't think they have for some time...

The only one that might still qualify is RBC, my basis for that is solely due to them still having signage rights on that building, but the rest of the banks are essentially just glorified branches. Also, I'm not sure all the banks were involved in building the towers...I think only BMO and TD were involved in building their respective towers (and RBC) but I don't think CIBC had a hand with the Richardson building, nor Scotiabank with the Artis tower...I could be wrong though.


OP, what about Caisse Desjardins? I guess they don't really count as a big bank...but they are considered the "6th" largest financial service group in Canada after the big 5 Canadian banks. They have a presence in Winnipeg and about 14 or 15 of the surrounding french towns. I think they're only in a few provinces though...not west of Winnipeg CMA to my knowledge.

edit: a quick trip to their site shows they're only in Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, New Brunswick and surprisingly Florida lol

[Mrs Sauga]

One thing these thread highlighted to me, was that Canadian banks are cheap!

Royal Bank is canada's #1 bank, and Edmonton is Canada's 6th biggest city. Here is their office:

http://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/8...AC0B4BDF__.jpg

Compare with USA... Bank of America is their biggest bank, and check out a regional office in Tampa Bay, USA's 55th biggest city:

sonny side up http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...laza_Tampa.jpg

With the exception of Toronto, and a couple of Calgary and Montreal offices, Canadian bank offices suck!

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by roccerfeller

edit: a quick trip to their site shows they're only in Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, New Brunswick and surprisingly Florida lol

What's the relationship between Desjardins and Caisse Financial Group of Manitoba? I can't see any indication of a connection on the Caisse website and yet it's listed on the Desjardins site as "where to find us" in Manitoba. I'd never heard of Desjardins operating in Manitoba. Interesting.

TD does have some sort of regional office in Winnipeg. They reopened one a few years ago, from what I remember at least. The other banks don't as far as I know.

[The_Architect]

Originally Posted by Mrs Sauga

One thing these thread highlighted to me, was that Canadian banks are cheap!

Compare with USA... Bank of America is their biggest bank, and check out a regional office in Tampa Bay, USA's 55th biggest city:

Hell look at Bank of America's office in another country:

[davidivivid]

Originally Posted by Andy6

What's the relationship between Desjardins and Caisse Financial Group of Manitoba? I can't see any indication of a connection on the Caisse website and yet it's listed on the Desjardins site as "where to find us" in Manitoba. I'd never heard of Desjardins operating in Manitoba. Interesting.

Desjardins hasn't any link with the Caisse in Manitoba I believe. It can be complicated and time consuming to merge with another credit union. Hence, Desjardins decided to buy a bank instead. It bought Western Financial Group for $443M at the end of 2010 in order to increase its presence in Western Canada. At that time, Western Financial had aboud 600 000 clients and 121 offices in British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Desjardins be one of the bidders for ING Canada.

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by Andy6

What's the relationship between Desjardins and Caisse Financial Group of Manitoba? I can't see any indication of a connection on the Caisse website and yet it's listed on the Desjardins site as "where to find us" in Manitoba. I'd never heard of Desjardins operating in Manitoba. Interesting.

TD does have some sort of regional office in Winnipeg. They reopened one a few years ago, from what I remember at least. The other banks don't as far as I know.

As I understand it, its simply a subsidiary of Desjardins operating under a local brand, akin to Atlantic Superstore (which is a subsidiary of Loblaws operating under a regional branding). There is a new regional head office in Winnipeg (on Provencher), and some of the staff members refer to it as "Caisse Desjardins"...that might be where I connected the two together. That said, inside the city, its only in St Boniface (theres a few there I believe), and the french-dense areas of St Vital. I'm not sure about St Norbert.

I am not sure of the exact connection, but its been in Manitoba for some time, especially in the french towns.

I didn't know about TD though - that's pretty neat. Where about is the office?

Originally Posted by davidivivid

Desjardins hasn't any link with the Caisse in Manitoba I believe. It can be complicated and time consuming to merge with another credit union. Hence, Desjardins decided to buy a bank instead. It bought Western Financial Group for $443M at the end of 2010 in order to increase its presence in Western Canada. At that time, Western Financial had aboud 600 000 clients and 121 offices in British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Desjardins be one of the bidders for ING Canada.

No, I don't think that's correct. Western Financial was separate from Caisse. The only relationship now is that both are owned by Desjardins. Caisse existed before Desjardins purchased Western Financial. Caisse has always been a Desjardins subsidiary, it was always in the smaller french communities in Manitoba. Which makes sense because that is imprortant to Desjardins business in Québec, is that it is in all the small towns where the bigger banks can tend to skip.

That said, I did forget about Desjardins purchasing Western Financial - that would mean Desjardins does have a presence in western Canada beyond Manitoba.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by roccerfeller

As I understand it, its simply a subsidiary of Desjardins operating under a local brand, akin to Atlantic Superstore (which is a subsidiary of Loblaws operating under a regional branding). There is a new regional head office in Winnipeg (on Provencher), and some of the staff members refer to it as "Caisse Desjardins"...that might be where I connected the two together. That said, inside the city, its only in St Boniface (theres a few there I believe), and the french-dense areas of St Vital. I'm not sure about St Norbert.

I am not sure of the exact connection, but its been in Manitoba for some time, especially in the french towns.

I didn't know about TD though - that's pretty neat. Where about is the office?



No, I don't think that's correct. Western Financial was separate from Caisse. The only relationship now is that both are owned by Desjardins. Caisse existed before Desjardins purchased Western Financial. Caisse has always been a Desjardins subsidiary, it was always in the smaller french communities in Manitoba. Which makes sense because that is imprortant to Desjardins business in Québec, is that it is in all the small towns where the bigger banks can tend to skip.

That said, I did forget about Desjardins purchasing Western Financial - that would mean Desjardins does have a presence in western Canada beyond Manitoba.

The Manitoba caisses populaires are affiliated with Desjardins now.

Most of the caisses populaires across Canada including in Quebec were set up in cooperation with French Catholic parishes decades ago. Once they federated under the Desjardins banner in Quebec, it took some time for all of them in the other provinces to come under that banner, but I think almost all of them are with Desjardins now.

I think the only exception might be the Acadian caisses in Nova Scotia. Acadian caisses all over New Brunswick are with Desjardins and have been for a while.

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by Acajack

The Manitoba caisses populaires are affiliated with Desjardins now.

Most of the caisses populaires across Canada including in Quebec were set up in cooperation with French Catholic parishes decades ago. Once they federated under the Desjardins banner in Quebec, it took some time for all of them in the other provinces to come under that banner, but I think almost all of them are with Desjardins now.

I think the only exception might be the Acadian caisses in Nova Scotia. Acadian caisses all over New Brunswick are with Desjardins and have been for a while.

Ah very interesting Acajack. That makes sense