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Old Posted: Jul 18, 2012, 1:05 AM
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Rode by the site of this proposed building the other day and noticed the rendering -- lots of potential. Odd site. I wonder what's in store for the rest of eastern half of that block...

http://colabarchitecture.com/colabpr...sippicook.html



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Old Posted: Jul 18, 2012, 1:43 AM
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^ Another building designed by software. Sigh. Unfortunately, this modern minimalist crap with staggered windows will not age well, but it will have excellent views of the freeway spaghetti for years to come! Hopefully the half block site just to the north will be better...
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Rode by the site of this proposed building the other day and noticed the rendering -- lots of potential. Odd site. I wonder what's in store for the rest of eastern half of that block...

http://colabarchitecture.com/colabpr...sippicook.html



Is it me or does the rendering look way out of scale compared to the adjacent house? Not a fan of ribbon windows and the lack of detail. Cheap metal panels fill in the blanks and could have ill results.
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I think that's because you usually don't get to see the facade of a building like that in full elevation. So instead of breaking up the massing, or adding different levels of articulation, the design kind of smacks you in the face with it's broad side so prominent and austere.

I'm in agreement that the site has lots of potential for design cues, but that the current proposal seems rather bland.
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Old Posted: Jul 18, 2012, 10:31 PM
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So instead of breaking up the massing, or adding different levels of articulation, the design kind of smacks you in the face with it's broad side so prominent and austere.
I wonder if the austere facade was to provide a contrast for the swash of color that is the "loggia"?
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Old Posted: Jul 19, 2012, 6:31 AM
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I think my bar is set so low with infill here that I get excited about anything that doesn't have a flying roof and vinyl siding. I like the triangle shape of this building and I think the cafe/retail space and opening on the top floor look promising. Materials used obviously could make or break it. I do have an affinity for minimalism (but also love our beautiful early-20th-century architecture that we so enjoy tearing down). Also I like the fact that this is on such a small lot -- opens the door to different/interesting things happening on the rest of those empty lots up towards Fremont. I heard rumors of an ampitheater a few years ago.

NJD, what sort of design approach would you like to see here, or in any new development for that matter?

GreyTao, welcome to the forum! Hope you keep posting!
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Old Posted: Jul 19, 2012, 7:10 AM
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COLAB has a lot of interesting 'speculative' projects. I absolutely love their idea for the Burnside Bridgehead and the Convention Center hotel/condo mixed-use idea.
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Three things bother me about COLAB's (and other firms) current style:
-They look like they are designed using software-induced limitations of material choice and auto-placement on plane line features (among other limitations/auto-functions of current technology). This makes designs flat, mathematical, and easy to emulate. This project was designed for a MacBook screen, not for a human being.
-IMO This building has no architectural longevity, and will require remodeling in 20-30 years much like all the 'new' styles of the last 60-80 years (since pre-fab construction techniques/ materials first appeared).
-This style is a boring rip-off of what the dutch have been doing for decades. I would prefer a newer architectural style; one that has more material, cultural, and weather-warding roots in the NW.
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Three things bother me about COLAB's (and other firms) current style:
-They look like they are designed using software-induced limitations of material choice and auto-placement on plane line features (among other limitations/auto-functions of current technology). This makes designs flat, mathematical, and easy to emulate. This project was designed for a MacBook screen, not for a human being.
-IMO This building has no architectural longevity, and will require remodeling in 20-30 years much like all the 'new' styles of the last 60-80 years (since pre-fab construction techniques/ materials first appeared).
-This style is a boring rip-off of what the dutch have been doing for decades. I would prefer a newer architectural style; one that has more material, cultural, and weather-warding roots in the NW.
True, but

I would argue that Portland primarily needs new affordable retail, housing, and offices built in the city and neighborhoods to increase density, and do so in a manner that improves rather than detracts the urban environment. Not all buildings need to stand out.

And all buildings will be renovated at some point anyway. Nothing wrong with minimalism.
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Is it me or does the rendering look way out of scale compared to the adjacent house? Not a fan of ribbon windows and the lack of detail. Cheap metal panels fill in the blanks and could have ill results.
The house next door, or actually three unit building, was also designed by Colab. I am guessing materials will be pretty similar to what the building next to it has.
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I guess I should have started out with the praise this project deserves instead of going strait to design mockery. Regardless of my criticism, I do like this development. Creative work space is always welcome, and so are the car-free amenities, small cafe nook, and light industrial space at basement level. In fact, I've been wondering why no one has helped stretch Mississippi toward the city and connect to the Russell Street area. There is a lot of DOT land down there, but really the two retail streets are not far apart. I digress, any architectural expression cannot possibly please everyone always, and COLAB's designs strike a bad chord with me... mostly for the blatant use of computer aided drafting.
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I guess I should have started out with the praise this project deserves instead of going strait to design mockery. Regardless of my criticism, I do like this development. Creative work space is always welcome, and so are the car-free amenities, small cafe nook, and light industrial space at basement level. In fact, I've been wondering why no one has helped stretch Mississippi toward the city and connect to the Russell Street area. There is a lot of DOT land down there, but really the two retail streets are not far apart. I digress, any architectural expression cannot possibly please everyone always, and COLAB's designs strike a bad chord with me... mostly for the blatant use of computer aided drafting.
I can understand that, they are a very high tech focused firm, so everything they do is going to have that computer design look to it, which can sometimes feel out of place in Portland...but sometimes it works when it comes to things like the Tube in downtown.

They are definitely a very unique firm in Portland that has definitely been more willing than some to try different ideas with architecture, but like any architecture, not everyone is going to like it.


Also, I am guessing that site is a bit of a challenge and most developers and architects would simply overlook such a site and leave it empty rather than try to figure out how to fit something there. Hopefully the materials they use will be of quality because bad materials can wreck any design.
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Wow, I had no idea this was going on... Talk about unsightly architecture. Hope they at least replace the windows.


Lents building unwrapped after years of uncertainty

POSTED: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 at 02:13 PM PT
BY: Reed Jackson


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After being wrapped tightly for years, the Woodstock Plaza, a mixed-use complex at Southeast Woodstock Boulevard and 93rd Avenue, was unveiled last week.

David Emami, manager of Woodstock Plaza LLC, the project’s developer, wasn’t happy about it.

“It’s like showing off a car without headlights or wheels,” he said. “People like it and don’t like it; they give us credit, discredit. It’s not done yet.”

According to Emami, the wrappings came down early because construction crews could no longer bear hot working conditions. The apartment building, which has retail space on the first floor, won’t be finished and put back on the market for two or three more months, he said.

However, the removal of wrappings is nevertheless important for Lents residents, who have wondered about the building’s status for years, said Nick Christensen, chairman of the neighborhood association.

“We’re really trying to let people know that Lents is a great place to do business and invest in,” he said. “To have a building sitting there for so long, wrapped up and looking empty, doesn’t do us any good. It looks way better; it looked like garbage back then.”

Christensen referred to 2005, when the complex was constructed. The original developer, PSTN LLC, owned by Noman Ahmed, built it with a number of structural defects, according to the Bureau of Development Services. Apparently, windows were installed improperly, pipes weren’t sealed, insufficient fire safety equipment was installed and signage was placed improperly. Additionally, the building garnered a number of trash and debris violations.

When the BDS inquired about the problems, officials discovered that final inspection approval had not been given, according to project records.

As a result, the bureau imposed 11 liens, including illegal occupancy. PSTN LLC, which could not afford the fines, shut the building down. Taxpayers had to pay the costs associated with transferring residents to more appropriate housing.

Since 2009, around the time that the building was vacated, it’s been tightly covered; the wrapping was put there by Clackamas County Bank, which repossessed it. The bank was going to renovate the building itself until it discovered how much it would cost to not only pay for construction but also the liens.

The building sat vacant until September 2011, when Emami and his partners (including his wife, Diana, a real estate agent) agreed to take over the building.

“There’s a lot of controversy,” he said. “This building was not right; it was just falling apart. We have to … redo many things.”

Repairs, which are being tackled by the company and general contractor Bradley Construction, range from siding to many inner systems. Overall, the cost will be around $130,000, according to Emami.

However, help came from the Portland Development Commission, which, because of the building’s location in the Lents neighborhood, allowed participation in its Development Opportunity Services program. It helps gauge financial feasibility of renovation projects, and in this case provided approximately $30,000 for the project, Emami said.

Also, through a lien reduction request, Woodstock Plaza LLC was able to significantly reduce the fines associated with the property. That displeased the bank, Emami said.

“It took the bank and the city two and a half years of bickering (for the project to move forward),” he said. “We went out and paid the fines – of course the bank hated that. The city was happy, because somebody was paying them.”

But those problems are in the past, Emami said. After proper permitting was secured, construction started three months ago. The plan is to build high-end housing, which may or not be market rate, and to fill the retail spaces as soon as possible.

Even though neighborhood residents had to wait years for something to happen with the building, the project is timely, Christensen said.

“It’s kind of a metaphor for what’s happening in Lents right now,” he said. “We’ve got the streetscape project, other buildings coming in… Getting this thing finished will be great for bringing in new businesses.”
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Wow, put the wrapping back up. Those windows are a crime against humanity.
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That reminds me of a 4-for-less for some odd reason. Terrible design, truly horrific.
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Siteworks project manager Andrew Leritz and San Diego-based architect Lloyd Russel are planning for the Creston Lofts, an 18-unit mixed-use development on Southeast Gladstone Street.(Rendering courtesy of Lloyd Russell)


Home to be set atop Southeast Portland mixed-use development
POSTED: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 at 02:34 PM PT
BY: Lee Fehrenbacher, Daily Journal of Commerce

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Blending a single-family home with a commercial building can be challenging, but developers of a project in Southeast Portland have come up with a rather unique plan.

“The idea is to save the house on the south side of the property, lift that house up, and set it on top of the … building,” said Andrew Leritz, a project manager for Siteworks Design | Build.

Leritz and San Diego-based architect Lloyd Russell are developing the Creston Lofts, an 18-unit mixed-use apartment complex, at 2860 S.E. Gladstone St. The project will create two three-story buildings and one two-story building.

One three-story building will have three live-work spaces on the ground floor and three walk-up townhouse units above. The other three-story building will have a commercial space and an apartment on the ground floor as well as seven apartments spread over the two stories above.

The two-story building will have two residential spaces on the ground floor and the 61-year-old, approximately 1,600-square-foot house on top.

“We could have done a bigger building there, but this one made the most sense and fits into the neighborhood,” Leritz said. “… It’s going to be a real neat place. It will probably be the nicest apartment in the whole deal – definitely the most unusual.”

Existing duplexes will be demolished to make way for new construction; the team is hoping to break ground by the end of the year. Siteworks is the general contractor for the project and has submitted a building permit to the city.

Leritz said he and Russell started exploring the idea 12 years ago, but finding the right property took time because they had some fairly strict requirements. Specifically, they didn’t want the project to be subject to design review, which Leritz said is costly and time-consuming. He said Russell also didn’t like the idea of a committee telling him what he could and couldn’t do.

Some of Russell’s past projects, viewable at www.lloyd-russell.com, feature facades that seem to combine rustic materials with modern, angular spaces.

Leritz and Russell also wanted to purchase a property with existing tenants so it could sustain itself while they devised their development plan. They purchased the property on Gladstone Street in 2005, but plans were shelved when both men became fathers. Then the economy fell apart and the project remained on hold until about a year ago.

Jean-Pierre Veillet, Siteworks’ president, said the project will have small units ranging in size between approximately 400 and 650 square feet.

“When you get spaces that are too large you tend to lose a lot of the look and feel and humanness,” he said. “When you keep it smaller it still meets affordability, but you can add in some of the design elements that make it more exciting.”

Russell said he will use tall ceilings, big windows and some sort of connection to outdoor spaces so the units feel larger than they are. It kind of goes against the grain of popular culture, he said.

“Americans in general always want more,” he said. “We want bigger cars, bigger houses, bigger yards … more. But when you’re talking about a rental project, you can’t have everything.”

Another common challenge for projects like this is preserving privacy for residential units on the ground floor. Russell said he hopes to accomplish that by creating live-work units that maintain an element of privacy via mezzanines.

Leritz said he is talking with an interested restaurateur to occupy the commercial space and that the idea is to complement Yoko’s Japanese restaurant and the C Bar next door.

Leritz and Russell are working on the financing, and Leritz said they had been approached by a couple of interested investors. They hope to have the Creston Lofts open by 2014.

Leritz is crossing his fingers for dry weather.

“The biggest challenge is that it’s not the ideal time to start construction toward the end of the year,” he said. “We’ll be off by a few months. It’d be nice to start right now while the weather is still dry.”
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The idea seems a little gimmicky to me, as if they're doing it just for the fact that it's unique. The existing house placed on a 1-story podium doesn't relate to the rest of the development and the house is set back into the lot as if trying to hide from the street. Why not make it front and center as a showpiece of how this idea could be implemented on other sites?

I like how it poses a solution to increasing density, and while I do think it's an interesting approach, I'd like to see the idea thought out a little better into a composition that can serve as a case study for future development.

I wonder what the cost savings is from raising up the house and modifying the plumbing/electrical/foundation versus disassembling the house and reusing materials in the new development.
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I've never heard of anything like this. 'Sounds super cool. I can't wait to see how this turns out.
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