The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread

[digitboy]

Rimouski in 3rd place? Interesting ! Having 5 Tim Hortons for a population of roughtly 50 000 must have helped I remember last year when I visited Moncton, I stopped to count them after 10... crazy !

[Norshorer]

Originally Posted by digitboy

Rimouski in 3rd place? Interesting ! Having 5 Tim Hortons for a population of roughtly 50 000 must have helped I remember last year when I visited Moncton, I stopped to count them after 10... crazy !

A quick look on TimHortons.ca (see link below) shows Moncton area (incl. Riverview & Dieppe) as having 26 locations total (and yes, that includes all the "hidden" locations in airports, malls, hospital, etc.)

That's gotta be some kind of record


This mini-rant is a bit off-topic, but...
Personally, kinda wish Tim Hortons wasn't so prevalent in Atlantic Canada (seriously... 26 locations?!?) as they're preventing competing donut shops from even considering to setup a store East of Montreal/Quebec City. Doubt we'll ever see a Dunkin Donuts or Krispy Kreme this side of Quebec anytime soon. Granted, Starbucks seems to be the only one taking a crack at it by building their first true stand-alone location at Lounsburry Centre, but they're considerably more "upscale" (read, pricier) than Tim's anyway. Dunkins is more on Tim's level price-wise.

As a matter of fact, anyone remember the old Mister Donut franchise & how we USED to have Dunkins around NB such as in Fredericton & even as far away as Tracadie before Tims forced/bought them out?

I know I'm probably breaking some unwritten "Gasp! You're not Canadian if you say this" rule by claiming this, but I actually prefer the variety of foods/drinks that Dunkins offers in USA vs. the limited choices we have at Tims each year.

Dunkins = different new drinks/food each month. They even have their own K-Cups now. Tim's? lasagna & frozen lemonade... oh joy... thanks for trying

Ah well, glad they at least got with the times and started accepting Interac.
- end rant -

How many Tim's does 1 city need? One for every letter of the alphabet apparently...
http://www.timhortons.com/ca/locator...on,+NB&x=0&y=0

[JHikka]

What defines "canucky"? I also see Saint John on the list next to that but I can't make out what it's for. Something wonderful, i'm sure

[kwajo]

Originally Posted by RyeJay

Actually, strictly, not true.

In my humility, I will acknowledge the recent residential proposals, including the one completed building beside the cruise ship terminal (though I will criticise tenant affordability) -- but I will disagree with you of it being "a lot;" in fact, it will take more than a handful of downtown developments to begin curbing the city's debt incurred from sprawled infrastructure in the past, as well as the current suburbia still going up in Saint John's proximal, unamalgamated communities. It will be some time still before Saint John sees a return on the cost of maintaining the uptown's infrastructure.

It is also about bringing in jobs to this urban centre for these assumed would-be residents.

I agree with you in the sense that this is a good first step. If the province permits it, the city can work toward bringing its urban development into the majority. Suburban development, though I don't advocate for it, doesn't have to be halted completely.

And I surely hope it is not at all necessary for Moncton to economically hit 'rock bottom' before it finally begins building inward and upward. I am wondering how strong a kick in the stomach it'll be to the city when Moncton High is relocated and the downtown sees a sharp drop in population, and its associated spending within downtown businesses.

Having a downtown school is such a powerful asset for bringing in more residential, which in turn will attract more businesses and jobs, collectively raise more tax revenue via density, and in turn will be more easily justifiable to spend money on park and landscaping renovations to make the entire space more livable -- to attract even more residential...

You're right that it will take a lot to curb the decades of sprawl, and I'd be the first to go on a rant about how it has destroyed our city's finances trying to service a population that is stretched thinly across a massive city area. But I do think that my statement is true about the growth in residential Uptown.

If you look at the latest census numbers, the urban core did grow in population, which is a huge achievement for the city. In addition, while a number of brand-new projects are stuck in "proposed" and may never break ground, there are a large number of upper floors that have been renovated in the past 6-12 months, with many more underway. Harbourfront Residences and The Abbey alone have added almost a couple hundred units to what were previously vacant lots, and there are numerous buildings on King St, Prince William, Princess St, etc., that have had vacant floors above commercial storefront renovated into beautiful new apartments (all of which is happening after those improved census results). For a small city like Saint John, these are sizeable improvements, and if the Coast Guard site gets off the ground and the second phase of Harbourfront gets underway, then we'll see hundreds more residential units on Water Street alone.

I also hope we don't see Moncton hit 'rock bottom' after the high school moves, it's a terrible shame to see the perpetuation of suburban sprawl in New Brunswick, I'd love to see all 3 cities begin to look more at the value of urban growth, not just for the vibrancy of our province, but for their own fiscal well-being.

[mylesmalley]

Originally Posted by Norshorer

A quick look on TimHortons.ca (see link below) shows Moncton area (incl. Riverview & Dieppe) as having 26 locations total (and yes, that includes all the "hidden" locations in airports, malls, hospital, etc.)

That's gotta be some kind of record


This mini-rant is a bit off-topic, but...
Personally, kinda wish Tim Hortons wasn't so prevalent in Atlantic Canada (seriously... 26 locations?!?) as they're preventing competing donut shops from even considering to setup a store East of Montreal/Quebec City. Doubt we'll ever see a Dunkin Donuts or Krispy Kreme this side of Quebec anytime soon. Granted, Starbucks seems to be the only one taking a crack at it by building their first true stand-alone location at Lounsburry Centre, but they're considerably more "upscale" (read, pricier) than Tim's anyway. Dunkins is more on Tim's level price-wise.

As a matter of fact, anyone remember the old Mister Donut franchise & how we USED to have Dunkins around NB such as in Fredericton & even as far away as Tracadie before Tims forced/bought them out?

I know I'm probably breaking some unwritten "Gasp! You're not Canadian if you say this" rule by claiming this, but I actually prefer the variety of foods/drinks that Dunkins offers in USA vs. the limited choices we have at Tims each year.

Dunkins = different new drinks/food each month. They even have their own K-Cups now. Tim's? lasagna & frozen lemonade... oh joy... thanks for trying

Ah well, glad they at least got with the times and started accepting Interac.
- end rant -

How many Tim's does 1 city need? One for every letter of the alphabet apparently...
http://www.timhortons.com/ca/locator...on,+NB&x=0&y=0

Crazy as this sounds, there are at least two not on that map. Albert St and the Red Ball Internet Centre.

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Crazy as this sounds, there are at least two not on that map. Albert St and the Red Ball Internet Centre.

There is no Tim's in the RBIC. It's a cafe-thing now.

[mylesmalley]

I don't believe you. Tim Hortons' never close!

[CdnEh]

Looks like Rogers has confirmed plans to roll out its new LTE network to Moncton by the end of 2012:

http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carrier...nsion-in-2012/

[kirjtc2]

Originally Posted by Norshorer

I know I'm probably breaking some unwritten "Gasp! You're not Canadian if you say this" rule by claiming this, but I actually prefer the variety of foods/drinks that Dunkins offers in USA vs. the limited choices we have at Tims each year.

You're not alone, believe me. I still miss the Dunkin in Fredericton.

To get this slightly back on topic...wasn't there one in Moncton too? Want to say it was in that strip mall in front of NBCC.

[C_Boy]

Originally Posted by kirjtc2

You're not alone, believe me. I still miss the Dunkin in Fredericton.

To get this slightly back on topic...wasn't there one in Moncton too? Want to say it was in that strip mall in front of NBCC.

Yes there was one years ago at the corner of Hildegarde and Mountain. It was later "Pic a loaf" and now home to Vogue Optical.

[Monctonguy19]

Here's something pretty interesting I found on radio-canada today. (I'll translate it at the end)

La ville de Moncton, au Nouveau-Brunswick, connaît une année record en construction résidentielle. La ville est passée de 9 millions $ en permis de construction émis à plus de 17 millions en un an.
Selon le directeur général de la ville, Jacques Dubé, Moncton est attirante pour les investisseurs.
« Si tu regardes le rapport de la firme KPMG, la ville de Moncton est la meilleure place au Canada pour faire des affaires », affirme M.Dubé.Ce sont les condos de luxe qui remportent la palme des nouvelles constructions et ce n'est qu'un début selon Richard Lang, spécialiste en immobilier commercial.

« On s'attend à voir au cours des prochaines années de quatre à cinq de ces tours là au centre-ville de Moncton », explique M.Lang.
La rue Main au centre-ville de Moncton. Ces condos se construisent principalement en périphérie de la rue Main et devraient contribuer à ramener les gens sur la rue marchande. La ville de Moncton tente depuis plusieurs années de revitaliser son centre-ville.
« Ça prend plus de résidents au centre-ville, plus de gens qui vont marcher au travail, macher pour aller au restaurant, dans les petites boutiques », croit Richard Lang.
http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/a...-moncton.shtml

It says that the city passed from 9 million construction licence last year to 17 million this year! KPMG say's that Moncton is the best place in Canada to do buisness (not sure about that). It also say's that there expecting 4-5 new towers in downtown (not sure what they mean by Towers but hope it around 7 stories or higher ) Thats pretty much it! Really good news for moncton and its downtown!!

[MonctonRad]

Not sure about those figures, according to the GMPDC website, there were nearly $70M in residential building permits issued for the city of Moncton in 2011 (over $120M for the whole CMA).

There probably are 4-5 largish apartment buildings and condos to be built in the downtown area over the next several years.

Yes, KPMG has stated that Moncton is the best place to do business in the country.

[RyeJay]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Not sure about those figures, according to the GMPDC website, there were nearly $70M in residential building permits issued for the city of Moncton in 2011 (over $120M for the whole CMA).

There probably are 4-5 largish apartment buildings and condos to be built in the downtown area over the next several years.

Yes, KPMG has stated that Moncton is the best place to do business in the country.

I'm hoping the proposed apartment buildings happen sooner rather than later.

The Moncton area certainly is a good place for businesses, since the expenditures of any business here are greatly softened via low wages for labour, which is often bilingual, in factories, offices, and stores built on cheaply developed taxpayer-subsidised sprawled lands with Canada's best taxpayer-subsidised corporate tax cuts.

Or, as it's known internationally, The Full-Irving.

[Monctonguy19]

Not sure about those figures, according to the GMPDC website, there were nearly $70M in residential building permits issued for the city of Moncton in 2011 (over $120M for the whole CMA).

Even better!!

Yes, KPMG has stated that Moncton is the best place to do business in the country.

Well thats pretty awsome!

[Taeolas]

Originally Posted by kirjtc2

You're not alone, believe me. I still miss the Dunkin in Fredericton.

To get this slightly back on topic...wasn't there one in Moncton too? Want to say it was in that strip mall in front of NBCC.

It's not Dunkin, but Tim's doesn't quite have a Monopoly in NB. Robins Donuts and Country Style are both holding on to toeholds in various places in the province. Granted it's a touhg battle but they do exist.

[MonctonRad]

This clarifies the previous post by MonctonGuy19

Home construction rises in Moncton
Monday, July 16, 2012
Times & Transcript
By: Tess Allen

Moncton, Riverview building permits show dramatic increase this summer

Construction of new homes is on the rise in Greater Moncton. Last month, Moncton showed a near-recordbreaking number of residential building permits for the month of June, second only to those of June 2009.

The June numbers were up compared to May of this year, and overall numbers have climbed significantly from last year.

Kevin Silliker, Director of Economic Development with the City of Moncton, says the numbers for last month show a great deal of promise for the City.

'This is definitely a good thing; clearly this is an expansion of our tax base and this is an indicator that we're definitely going in the right direction,' said Silliker.

'Our community and our population are growing.

People see Moncton as a great choice for investing in.

They have confidence in our economy, and this is all part of a very positive trend.' Silliker says residential building permits in May of 2011 totalled 12.5 million and in May 2012, they accounted for 12.4 million. June 2011 residential permits totalled 9.3 million, and the total value of residential building permits for June 2012 was 17.2 million. Silliker calls these figures 'incredible.' 'That's a really, really strong month for residential permits,' said Silliker of the numbers for June 2012.

read more:
http://22864.vws.magma.ca/index.php?&article_id=9367

[Monctonguy19]

Thanks MonctonRad!

[MonctonRad]

Yet another indication of population growth in the area. The new Anglophone East School Board says that kindergarten enrollment in the area is up 10% over last year. The francophone school board is not prepared to give numbers yet, but also says it will be a record year.

Source - T&T

[KnoxfordGuy]

Great news moncton!

[MonctonRad]

Well, I guess that Moncton has officially acquired a new daily newspaper:

l'Acadie Nouvelle is moving their production and distribution facilites from Caraquet to Moncton.

Moncton will thus join an "elite" group of cities with more than one daily newspaper.....