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Old Posted: Aug 3, 2012, 6:48 PM
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There are a bunch of tweets coming out of Washington DC with the hashtag #InspirationalNIMBY. @ggwash is looking for more inspirational NIMBY quotes.

Here are a few:

Marc Mitcham ‏@TwoWheelsDC
"Good fences make good neighbors as long as they're no taller than 7ft and made of period-correct materials" #inspirationalNIMBY

Grtr Grtr Washington ‏@ggwash
If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door, but only as long as it's not visible from the street. - Milton Berle #InspirationalNIMBY

Grtr Grtr Washington ‏@ggwash
All our dreams can come true - if we have the courage to stop others from pursuing theirs. - Disney #InspirationalNIMBY

SharrowsDC ‏@sharrowsDC
Be the obstruction you wish to see in the world. #inspirationalNIMBY

J.T. E ‏@jtedc
The only constant is change. Unless you get a small group of neighbors together to stop it. #inspirationalNIMBY

J.T. E ‏@jtedc
The only thing you have to fear is density itself. #inspirationalNIMBY

Ben Harris ‏@BenHarris_1
@IMGoph @sharrowsDC "Some look at an 8 story building and imagine how much nicer it would be if it were 7 instead." #InspirationalNIMBY

Jamie Scott ‏@_jpscott
Make no little plans. They have no magic to stir men's blood but probably the neighbors will not let them be realized. #InspirationalNIMBY

Chewy ‏@CapCityChewy
It takes a village to raise a child, but only if all of the structures are of a neutral pallette. #InspirationalNIMBY

Ben Harris ‏@BenHarris_1
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask how you can prevent your country from expanding to the country next door. #inspirationalNIMBY
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Old Posted: Aug 3, 2012, 9:37 PM
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I love it! You should forward it to Ken Gray and see what he does with it.
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Old Posted: Aug 7, 2012, 8:37 PM
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I also agree with waterloowarrior that KG limits his analysis to height-related issues, and that his blog is silent on many other forms of developments. For instance, on Merivale Road in Nepean, more strip-mall like stores are being built. These buildings are not tall, but they are (in my view) another step in the destruction of this part of Ottawa. The Bulldog, however, does not criticize this form of development, even though in my opinion a strip mall causes a lot more damage to a city than rezoning a lot so a condo building can be taller.

FWIW, Rhys Phillips did decide to talk about this kind of thing in a Citizen column. I'm not usually a fan of his, but I find he is usually worth reading nonetheless.

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Ottawa’s both too tall and too short

Intensification has seen looming condo towers sprout, but malls and parking lots still sprawl, Rhys Phillips writes. When will the city get it just right?

By Rhys Phillips August 5, 2012

Most Ottawans are aware of the increasing number of contentious “spot zonings” resulting in condominium tower heights far exceeding what was envisaged in approved community design plans. Spot zoning is the process of changing building and using restrictions on individual sites rather than as part of broad planning exercises.

Good planning regimes use this tool sparingly to deal with unique anomalies affecting the overall interests of the community. Instead, with the endorsement of council backed by enthusiastic support from the city’s planning officials, there has been a steady stream of such approvals for residential towers dramatically exceeding current permitted heights. Although usually opposed by the surrounding neighbourhoods, these approvals are wrapped in the sacred cloth of urban intensification and environmental responsibility. Those who oppose upsizing are branded as supporters of urban sprawl, as being environmentally irresponsible and — that most abused put-down — guilty of being “not in my backyarders.”

On the other side, however, few observers have paid much attention to council’s frequent approval of one-storey commercial projects that grossly underutilize scarce urban land. Not infrequently these decisions also result in environmentally harmful acres of parking capable of literally raising the temperature of the city. Frankly, it is hard not to experience the bitter taste of hypocrisy when examining how our professional planners and politicians cynically manipulate both ends of the height issue.

Height is not synonymous with density. Countless studies have debunked the myth that height means density yet this thesis continues to be the accepted mantra of city planners. Unless one envisages a city packed with cheek-by-jowl towers or slabs, the need to protect sunlight, views and provide amenities can and often does result in lower densities than low and mid-rise housing. For example, the point-towers of Vancouver’s core are frequently separated by rows of single family townhouses.

Well over a decade ago, Guedi Capeluto and Edna Shaviv reported that multiple studies had already demonstrated “that a reasonable density may be achieved with six (storey) high buildings while preserving the solar rights of neighbouring buildings, as well as open spaces among them.” At about the same time, the authors of Tall Buildings, a report of a U.K. Commons committee, wrote “The proposition that tall buildings are necessary to prevent suburban sprawl is impossible to sustain. They do not necessarily achieve higher densities than mid- or low-rise development and in some cases are a less-efficient use of space than alternatives.”

Even Vancouver, internationally renowned for its shimmering glass towers, is eschewing height for denser “village-like” development to reclaim the massive brownfields on the southeast shores of False Creek. The Olympic Village (now called Millennium Village) is the model. With architecturally strong and environmentally solid mid-rise buildings surrounding artful public squares and a striking community centre, it provides the preferable alternative option to highrise development.

Brent Toderian, Vancouver’s director of planning, recently told The Tyee, “the majority of the transformation of the city in the future, outside of the central area, will be in low- to mid-rise forms.” Significantly, he continues, most neighbourhood revolts are over height and not density. In other words, council’s obsession with height might be counterproductive, creating an unnecessary backlash to the otherwise admirable objective of intensification.

And there are costs to height. In the February 2011 issue of Better Cities and Towns, Michael Mehaffy reported that considerable “research shows that the benefits of density are not linear, but taper off as density increases. In other words, there is an optimum density, above which the negative effects of density start to increase over the positive ones. That ‘sweet spot’ seems to be in the neighbourhood of about 50 people per acre.” Many cities, he continues, achieve this desired density without over-scaled towers, “while creating a very appealing, livable environment.” (Montreal achieves this optimum with mostly low-rise residential buildings.) He also summarizes the mounting research demonstrating how tall buildings are environmentally inferior to lower buildings. This conclusion is supported by Vancouver’s development guidelines that make it clear that towers are the least “green” of all intensification forms.

There is much research to demonstrate the multiple shortcomings of tall residential towers. Research literature, states University of Victoria professor Robert Gifford in his The Consequences of Living in High-Rise Buildings, “suggests that high-rises are less satisfactory than other housing forms for most people, that they are not optimal for children, that social relations are more impersonal and helping behaviour is less than in other housing forms, that crime and fear of crime are greater, and that they may independently account for some suicides.” Other studies, led by the work of internationally renowned Danish architect and urbanist Jan Gehl, have demonstrated that above six storeys, residents lose their connection with the street.

Half the problem. Within the Greenbelt, the city’s propensity to breach height barriers is only half the problem. The other half is how the city accedes equally quickly to demands for very low-density, single-use developments frequently limited to a single storey. The proliferation of big box retail complexes, perhaps the very nadir of livable urban environments, is moving ever closer to downtown while eating up valuable urban land.

In the early 1990s, I constructed and presented to city council a scale model for the development of South Keys (I called it Sawmill Creek Village) that, if realized, would have resulted in 5,000 residents and 3,000 jobs. Existing rail lines would have linked the new urban village of townhouses and mid-rises, shops, squares, parks, a school and office buildings to the core and the east-west Transitway. Despite an enthusiastic reception — including from planning officials — we know the result.

Perhaps the most egregious recent example of a failed opportunity is the development of the Train Yards south of the Ottawa Train Station. Here is a horrendous lost opportunity to have thousands of residents — yes even families — living, working, shopping and playing in a strikingly designed, mixed-use transit-based community. This is not just about dreaming about cities like Helsinki and Copenhagen or even Vancouver, who do this so well, but about matching other Canadian cities such as Edmonton’s City Centre Airport development and Toronto’s West Don Lands.

Simply put, how do our professional planners and our politicians vigorously defend a 42-storey tower at Preston and Carling while approving such wasteful developments that fly in the face of the intensification objective? And this is but one example; there are others from the massive mis-development of the Merivale/Hunt Club junction, to many smaller, one-storey buildings and strips recently built along major urban streets. Why, for example, have the planners permitted a single-storey commercial strip at the old Laurention High School site, a sort of Potemkin village hiding the Wal-Mart and its parking lot?

A recent welcome, if out of character, OMB decision squashed the rezoning of the Roosevelt site in Westboro, which had been approved despite a zero increase in density and against community opposition. But since then, spot zoning has continued without pause.

Ottawa appears trapped in the kind of laissez faire development that characterized Toronto in the 1980s and saw that city lose its justifiable reputation as the new way to build livable cities. It is time for both the professionals and the politicians — if not the developers — to be held accountable for bringing Ottawa’s urban development thinking into the 21st century.

Rhys Phillips is an Ottawa architecture and urban design critic and a contributing editor of Building.
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Old Posted: Aug 8, 2012, 5:55 AM
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Can't agree more about the Trainyards development. That thing shouldn't have ever been built that way.
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Thank you McC for posting the Rhys Phillips column. I found his argument very interesting, as it touched on several issues that I have been thinking of lately.

I have heard several people argue that beyond a certain height tall buildings undermine density, because they remove many of the incentives that inspire people to move to a neighbourhood, e.g. sense of community, interesting relationship at street level, etc. I am still not sure if I buy that argument, but it's something that we definitely need to keep in mind.

What I am certain about, however, is that the city is destroying large parts of the city with mindless one-story development, as Phillips mentions in his column. Such streets as Merivale and Carling are a nightmare and appear to be getting worse with each passing day.

I often tell my friends that it feels like Ottawa is going in opposite directions. You have neighbourhoods like Westboro, Hintonburg and Wellington Village that are coming along very nicely, and then other neighbourhoods like the area around Merivale / Baseline that have embraced the air conditioned nightmare that is strip-mall hell.
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Old Posted: Aug 8, 2012, 2:55 PM
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Another major problem with high-rise buildings is beyond about 8 floors, the energy used to pump water up exceeds the energy saved with occupying less land. Also, floors above that point are taller than most trees and lose the benefit of shade at the height of the day, thus causing some quirks such as needing air conditioning in winter (especially in all-glass condos).
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that are coming along very nicely, and then other neighbourhoods like the area around Merivale / Baseline that have embraced the air conditioned nightmare that is strip-mall hell.
If only they were air-conditioned...
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Another major problem with high-rise buildings is beyond about 8 floors, the energy used to pump water up exceeds the energy saved with occupying less land. Also, floors above that point are taller than most trees and lose the benefit of shade at the height of the day, thus causing some quirks such as needing air conditioning in winter (especially in all-glass condos).
I haven't heard that before about buildings above 8 stories, would you have a link to information for this?

Also re: tree height, a building can have sun shade devices that can reduce the amount of solar gain in the summer.
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That would be a gift for those who want to de-amalgamate, or those who want growth in outlying communities.
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Old Posted: Aug 9, 2012, 11:23 PM
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thus causing some quirks such as needing air conditioning in winter (especially in all-glass condos).
I find that absolutely absurd, considering that it would be quite simply fixed by cold-air returns to the outside that are opened during the winter (I originally thought air ducts that circulate the warm air on the top stories with the cold air below, but decided this would be a better solution). In any case, this would be an efficiency in winter, if anything, and I cannot believe that engineers would not have figured this out/designed a solution. Personally, I believe it is at best a fallacious urban legend.
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I haven't heard that before about buildings above 8 stories, would you have a link to information for this?
I've lived in a couple 1970's built high rise buildings and both had the water pumped up after 8 floors. The first one I lived in on the 22nd floor and I'd have no running water during power failures. My second one was on the 8th floor just to avoid that issue.

But on the 8th floor I was certainly above the tree line.

I have no clue if that is inefficient when it concerns power consumption.
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Scenario number one:
Gray uses his tired little soap box to put an anti-development mayoral candidate in office in the next municipal election. Result is less intensification inside the Greenbelt (billed as a sign of the Apocalypse during the election campaign) and more sprawl in Greenfield Land. Unable to write anything other than contrarian drivel and now out of NIMBY targets, Gray is forced to change his tune and begins to pine for the good old days when buildings over 6 storeys were being built and it didn't take an hour and a half to get downtown on the Queensway.

Scenario number two:
Gray is fired by the Citizen due to an increasingly erratic output, but continues to "write" his column with his finger in the air at the corner of Richmond and Churchill, sharing his thoughts with passersby.

Scenario number three:
Status quo. Nothing changes. But fewer people are paying attention or care about what he's saying because there's another drought next year and food prices are up 40%. Or because he hasn't written anything new in years. Or both.
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I'm leaning towards number 3. Remember, Katherine Hobbs was elected in Kitchissippi Ward against an incumbent (Leadman) who never approved of any development in her ward due to squeaky wheel syndrome, and a candidate whose platform was based solely on opposing every and all new development.

Hobbs won by quite a margin. Just goes to show the vocal minority are just that. Grey must hate that she's decided to sell her car and go car-less. I'm sure such a thought would strike terror into Grey's mind, as he has often ridiculed her for taking public transit...and riding a bicycle.

And this guy sees himself as an urban planner. Insane.
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Number 2 would be amusing, though.
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What do you think of this article from the SUN. Some are saying 7 homes replacing one is too much and even the Community Association saying it (units) will be too tall

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/08/23/...offe-committee
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What do you think of this article from the SUN. Some are saying 7 homes replacing one is too much and even the Community Association saying it (units) will be too tall

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/08/23/...offe-committee
For me, it's not about 7 homes replacing 1; it's about a perfectly fine house being torn down for intensification nowhere near rapid transit.
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For me, it's not about 7 homes replacing 1; it's about a perfectly fine house being torn down for intensification nowhere near rapid transit.
If that's what the owner wants, why should anyone else care?
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For me, it's not about 7 homes replacing 1; it's about a perfectly fine house being torn down for intensification nowhere near rapid transit.
Isn't that site just a spit or two from a major 96/101 stop?
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I think you're still allowed to sell your house to whoever is offering to buy it. People's property values would matter a hell of a lot less if there were restrictions on them selling it.

These kind of developments are popular on the 1960s stretches of Carling, but haven't been tried on Woodroffe yet. I don't know - is it a big deal?
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We can't reject towers as inhuman-scale intensification and then also reject three-storey townhomes simply because there are more of them. This leads to zero intensification. Let's get perspective here : this is proposed on WOODROOFE near the QUEENSWAY. I can see no reason not to approve - this is exactly the sort of development we strongly need if intensification is to be spread more evenly throughout the City, as I believe must happen.

Also: isn't everyone always complaining that there aren't enough larger units being built inside the Greenbelt? This is yet another reason why this sort of development must occur - without it, the non-apartment central housing stock will simply continue to become more and more unaffordable as demand outpaces supply.
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