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Old Posted: Aug 4, 2012, 8:27 AM
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There's a lot to say about this. Canadians don't appreciate their heritage very much. They're also parochial, and there's no national mythos like what you find in the US (that's good and bad I guess), so the East Coast stuff has been shuffled out at the Ontario and Western Canada stuff has been shuffled in to suit current tastes. Regardless of their historical importance, Canadians don't know about Acadia, Port Royal, Halifax, and Louisbourg really. The "burning down the White House" stuff is presented in an abstract way. I don't think many people know that the general who led that attack was buried in Halifax in 1814 -- his tombstone is still there.

I won't name names but I see regular claims here, when it comes up, that the historic buildings in Halifax are about on par with smaller Ontario cities (sometimes you hear the variant that Montreal is about the same as Toronto because there isn't much old stuff anyway).

It does seem to be getting better, but I think the real reason for that is increased local spending on maintenance of historic buildings and public spaces. Luckily in Halifax the number of old buildings is staying about the same but the city is growing so there's more and more money available to preserve stuff.

Saint John similarly has not really been preserved as it ought to have been. No local money, no preservation. Quebec City luckily is the capital of a major province and closer to the bigger tourism markets. Montreal is too big to be propped up in the same way and it has not done particularly well given what it started out with. A lot of the Montreal buildings don't fit into the cutesy pioneer image of Canada's past so they don't register as heritage in the same way the little cottages do.
The problem, as I see it, is that so many discount, or ignore completely, the role of Atlantic Canada in the history of this country. I have to admit that when I moved from London ON to Halifax, I didn't have much of a concept as to what the Maritimes were all about. I had just heard that Halifax was 'cool' and it was the only part of the country that I hadn't yet lived in so...

It wasn't until I'd lived there for a bit that I realized how deeply rooted the people were; how old the place really was, how close you could feel to all of that history. Truly amazing! And Newfoundland... well... You literally feel as if you're living in the end of the world, and in a sense (so far as the ROC is concerned), you are!

Unfortunately, the small population makes it (Atlantic Canada) almost irrelevant when it comes to federal elections. The vast majority of Canadians have never been there; will never go there, and are comfortable thinking that it's some sort of basket case bastion of lazy people with no ambition. Far from it! Maritimers will go to extraordinary lengths NOT to leave, and I understand why, after living there, why they fight so hard to stay- despite the economic hardships and (yes) the raw deal that the region has historically received from Upper and Lower Canada.

If I were to be suddenly banished for life to the Maritimes my reaction would be "WOO HOO!" Thank you lawyer!

As far as historical preservation goes, Halifax has done much better than most places in Canada, a little worse than some others. The Maritime Command Museum fail is completely the fault of DND and the federal government. Ottawa is far from the 'end of the continent' and DND is probably the most useless of all our federal bureaucracies.

Oh and BTW, have you ever heard the outrage over the fact that PEI has four seats when in actual, bean-counter fact, they only deserve one? I mean, really...

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The problem, as I see it, is that so many discount, or ignore completely, the role of Atlantic Canada in the history of this country.
I think it was inevitable that our history became less important because Atlantic Canada failed to remain the dominant region in the country. There was a time when cities in Atlantic Canada were much larger and more powerful than cities elsewhere in what is now Canada; a time when someone could leave what is now Toronto and marvel at the size and sophistication of St. John's. Just imagine that, hahaha. Obviously, that isn't the case today.

If we had developed in a similar way to the United States - if St. John's was Canada's Boston, if Halifax was Canada's New York City, if the rest of the Maritimes was densely populated like the northeast United States... it'd be different today. Southern Ontario could be the equivalent of our fly-over states, who knows.

But, as it is, I'm kind of glad it went the way it did. I'd much rather have a smaller, well-preserved, beautifully historic St. John's than a large, modern city.
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Good points in the last few posts.

Unlike most other countries we also don't have a national historical narrative supported by popular books, movies, TV and even mandatory history classes (in some provinces anyway) to support a cross-country appreciation for the heritage of our older regions and their contribution to the building of the country. Or to even consider them interesting places to learn about or visit.
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Unlike most other countries we also don't have a national historical narrative supported by popular books, movies, TV and even mandatory history classes (in some provinces anyway) to support a cross-country appreciation for the heritage of our older regions and their contribution to the building of the country. Or to even consider them interesting places to learn about or visit.
Unfortunately even when there is a popular CBC history documentary or something it tends to display the same bias. Atlantic Canada is footnotes about fishermen. The amount of attention a place gets seems proportional to its population today, not how important it was back at the time in question. That's just a bad, misleading way to present history. Imagine a history of Europe that omitted ancient Greece and talked about Celts in 600 B.C. as if the world revolved around them.

Here's Jefferson's original "mere matter of marching" quote about invading Canada. I've only heard the first part quoted:

"The acquisition of Canada this year, as far as the neighborhood of Quebec, will be a mere matter of marching, and will give us the experience for the attack on Halifax, the next and final expulsion of England from the American continent."
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I really love both of our Joan of Arc statues because they are so different. The first statue is situated in the park which bears her name: the horse is nervous, she is standing up-right with her sword in the air. She is going to battle. It was offered to the city by a anonymous american couple who fell in love with the city.




Joan of Arc Gardens - Quebec City - Quebec030 par Bruce Aleksander & Dennis Milam, sur Flickr



Joan of Arc statue par wandering tattler, sur Flickr




Profil de Jeanne à Québec par Djof, sur Flickr



If the first statue is somewhat known in Quebec City, the existence of the second one is known only by a few people: it was commissioned by the Saint Joan of Arc sisters and it stands on the private grounds of the sisterhood in Sillery. She is still on a horse but her sword is down and she holds a flag in her other arm: she is returning from battle and is victorious.









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Keeping up with the theme of historical figures on horses: here is the Simón Bolívar monument, situated in the Latin America Park and offered to Quebec City by the Republic of Venezuela to commemorate the 200th anniversary of their hero.


Quebec City, Simon Bolivar and the Colombian Flag par a.w.e.s.o.m.e, sur Flickr



Finally, this is the somewhat underwhelming Latin America Park. The Simón Bolívar monument is located on the left, the Bernardo O'Higgins monument (Chilean independance hero) is located on the right and the city's modern law court is front and center.



http://www.capitale.gouv.qc.ca/reali...ue-latine.html
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Whoa I had no idea, nice monuments and urban spaces in Quebec city. A city truly under appreciated in Montreal, and especially in Canada.
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I really like this fountain/sculpture combo in Centre de Commerce Mondial. The fountain is a black marble tabletop and the water is virtually invisible. The sculpture is of Amphitrite, consort of Poseidon, and it dates back to mid-18th century France.



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This statue/fountain is of Maisonneuve, first governor of Montréal in 1642. It was erected in (newly renovated) Place d'Armes in 1895. (oops! As martin has already indicated!)







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This one always catches my eye:

http://www.avenuecalgary.com/blogs/o...orn-public-art


Jamieson Place Tower in Calgary. There are a few of these hanging from the roof next to the winter gardens:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14980862@N03/4545811532/

Hanging Lobby Pieces at Jamieson:

http://heathofee.com/wp-content/uplo...eson-Place.jpg

http://www.art-agenda.com/shows/perm...algary-canada/

Sculpture at BP, next to Jamieson Place.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/singlemoment/3337301634/

Plensa Head sculpture at the Bow. There will also be a smaller piece to go along with this 12m sculpture. Both pieces are currently under construction, and should be completed by the fall.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/busines...711/story.html

Also, there has been two recent announcements about art competitions for pieces at LeGermain and for Brad Lamb's 6th and 10th site.
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Montreal and Quebec City have some extremely impressive monuments, statues and fountains.
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Montreal and Quebec City have some extremely impressive monuments, statues and fountains.
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Whoa I had no idea, nice monuments and urban spaces in Quebec city. A city truly under appreciated in Montreal, and especially in Canada.
Agreed!


Here are some of the more prominent "classical" monuments in Quebec City:


Background for the first two pictures: the Battle of Quebec fought on the Plains of Abraham in 1759 wasn't the only major battle fought in Quebec around that time. A second battle happened in 1760 in Ste-Foy. The French actually won this battle but they weren't able to take back the city because of its walls. The site of this second battle has been transformed into a park and is under the jurisdiction of the National Battleground Commission. It is called Park of the Braves and it seems the French prefer to remember this battle for some reason : the French consulate is situated nearby and the statue in the following pictures was offered by Napoleon Bonaparte's nephew.



Parc des Braves par davidivivid, sur Flickr



Parc des Braves par davidivivid, sur Flickr




Honoré Mercier monument - 1912



Quebec City, Quebec par tacorebellion, sur Flickr




Statue Gathering par eikona.g, sur Flickr



The hugely impressive Samuel de Champlain Monument, unveiled in 1898, is perhaps the most well known monument in the city.




Statue, Quebec City par MatthewHutton1, sur Flickr



Statue of Champlain, Quebec City par Edward Willett, sur Flickr




Samuel de Champlain Statue par John F. T., sur Flickr



Ville de Québec par alex_ferguson, sur Flickr



Confucius monument, offered to Quebec City by the chinese province of Shandog in 2008, as a symbol of friendship between the to Provinces.



Cold Statue par Doug Tanner, sur Flickr



Monument of the Fate - 1916



DSC_3842E_Statue-Upper old Quebec City par Maurice P., sur Flickr



Québec - Fontaine Gothique par TomTom78_fr, sur Flickr



Monument de Mgr de Laval - 1908



Quebec City par Jonathan Ziapour, sur Flickr



A Bishop's Statue par kadj, sur Flickr




Monument de Tashereau – 1926



Taschereau Monument par D. S. Hałas, sur Flickr



Monument de Montcalm - 1911



Le monument Montcalm par CCNQ, sur Flickr




Monument de Montcalm par Love Joyce, sur Flickr



Monument F.X. Garneau – 1912



Garneau par alexabboud, sur Flickr



Quebec 08.13.07 12.03 IMG_5231 par PabsV, sur Flickr



Monument de la Guerre des Boers - 1905



DSCF6214 par peregrinari, sur Flickr



Short and Wallick monument - 1891. The women represents Quebec City, thankful to the two brave soldiers who died during the great fire of 1889 trying to blow up a house to stop the propagation of the fire.



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Jamieson Place Tower in Calgary. There are a few of these hanging from the roof next to the winter gardens:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14980862@N03/4545811532/
I knew this reminded of something! There are a bunch of these in the lobby of the Hilton Lac-Leamy hotel at the casino and entertainment complex in Gatineau. They are by Dale Chihuly - I looked that one up.
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Montreal and Quebec City have some extremely impressive monuments, statues and fountains.
^Excited to check out some of this art in person really soon for a few days on my pre-Euro mini trip to Montreal.


A couple more newer pieces in Calgary:
By the Banks of The Bow. Part of a 15 horse piece on the Stampede grounds:


http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/im...c-25b4d3f0708d


East Village's first art piece. A video display of people in constant motion. A tribute to what will most likely become Calgary's most compact, walkable neighborhood?..




http://www.canadianart.ca/online/fea...algary-stroll/
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Couple more from Calgary-->
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[URL="http://www.flickr.com/photos/23374848@N06/6065915576/sizes/l/in/photostream/"]http://www.flickr.com/photos/23374848@N06/6065915576/sizes/l/in/photostream/[/URL

Horse Sculpture close to the Calgary tower:

http://www.centrecitytalk.com/photos..._11_sept_2.jpg
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$685000 this cost the city lol. It is pretty huge to be honest and I couldn't get it all in. Oh ya it is in Winnipeg and it is Stainless steel. Has pretty lights at night lol.

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$685000 this cost the city lol. It is pretty huge to be honest and I couldn't get it all in. Oh ya it is in Winnipeg and it is Stainless steel. Has pretty lights at night lol.

I like it!
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Thanks for posting all these, everyone! It's so cool. Even if I visited all of these cities, I'd never see all of these.

I love Monument de Mgr de Laval - 1908. The proportions are beautiful, in my opinion.
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'La Joute' at Place Riopelle (named after the sculptor who created it, Jean-Paul Riopelle). At night, it puts on a show every hour until midnight. Mist rises from the adjacent park and advances on the fountain. After the fountain is completely engulfed in fog it bursts into flames then the water extinguishes the fire. Had to do a lot of shifting around due to the fat-ass tourist family from parts unknown who kept jumping in and out of my shots!













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