Originally Posted by BnaBreaker
I agree that it leaves a lot to be desired, but I'm guessing you just didn't know where to look. For a small city it does have some pretty good pockets of activity, relatively speaking. Also, while it is technically a college town, people forget that size wise UND is nowhere near as large as a U of Michigan or U of Wisconsin. There aren't nearly enough students to support the type of college town atmosphere that you see in Madison or Ann Arbor.
That, and I think a lot of people forget that a lot like my own city, the university isn't located in the city center or even directly adjacent to it. In fact, Notre Dame is located in an unincorporated area north of the city if even still in relatively close proximity to the center. I don't think people know that don't live in these towns just how different it can be from having your university located in
your city center to having it located near
your city center. I mean, Michigan State in East Lansing is located something like two miles from downtown Lansing, but it might as well be 20 miles, psychologically, whereas you can see just how much more Ann Arbor benefits from its university being integrated into and also next to its city center.
I guess it also doesn't help that Notre Dame is a nominally religious -- well, even more than nominally since most of the students identify as Catholics -- private university, either.