Halifax Stadium Discussion

[resetcbu1]

Renovate the Forum , build 4-pad arenas and BUILD THE STADIUM Halifax is doing well economy wise and things will only pick up . The transformation from small , have not city into a major city are in the winds but the city it's self must keep up to attract people who would otherwise choose a city with more to offer.

[someone123]

Spending on lavish recreational facilities seems to be the city's top priority lately. The city's main streets meanwhile are clogged and its most important commercial streets have ancient, crumbling sidewalks. Quinpool Road has those plastic bins that probably came from the Zellers closing out sale.

I think it's safe to say that HRM priorities are pretty messed up. As Keith P. says, it's not even very clear why the city needs to be building and subsidizing arenas.

[resetcbu1]

Originally Posted by someone123

Spending on lavish recreational facilities seems to be the city's top priority lately. The city's main streets meanwhile are clogged and its most important commercial streets have ancient, crumbling sidewalks. Quinpool Road has those plastic bins that probably came from the Zellers closing out sale.

I think it's safe to say that HRM priorities are pretty messed up. As Keith P. says, it's not even very clear why the city needs to be building and subsidizing arenas.

I agree with you, but I also believe the recreational facilities are a vital part of any city's infrastructure and I don't feel as though it is lavish to spend money on these facilities.

I could not agree more that a lot needs to be done with transportation ,road maintenance, and beautification of our main commercial streets Quinpool, spring garden road and Barrington street are all mess and the powerlines in all of downtown should be buried. With all of the opportunities on the horizon the city should be trying to find ways to attract new citizens and to keep young educated people who already live there. Of the things mentioned.... all of them are important to quality of life, and that is what I believe, personally, will draw new citizens to such a great city.

The city of Halifax is on the brink of becoming a major player in the global economy, but in order to do so you must spend money to make money. Business is always a gamble, it's time for the city to roll the dice and take some chances.

[cjones2451]

I know it is not an apples to apples comparison and Texas is football mad, but this is a HIGH SCHOOL stadium biuld for $60M and Halifax is still trying to figure out how to get something done....

Just food for thought

http://deadspin.com/5933007/this-is-...ium-looks-like

[Waye Mason]

Originally Posted by someone123

Spending on lavish recreational facilities seems to be the city's top priority lately. The city's main streets meanwhile are clogged and its most important commercial streets have ancient, crumbling sidewalks. Quinpool Road has those plastic bins that probably came from the Zellers closing out sale.

I think it's safe to say that HRM priorities are pretty messed up. As Keith P. says, it's not even very clear why the city needs to be building and subsidizing arenas.

HRM has a Community Facilities Master Plan. The CFMP doesn't say "everything should be four pads" it says Bedford needs a 4 pad.

HRM also keeps talking about the Community Access Plan which is actually Nustadia's plan to operate the BMO 4 pad, not a plan for 4 pads in HRM at all. In fact, it says "this document belongs to Nustadia" all over it.

There is no policy driving arena replacement rather than renewal, or 4 pads. There are lots of other options.

CFMP calls for a Category 1 community centre for every 11,000 people. You know, like Devonshire without the pool? Is there a plan for that? Nope. Doing the sexy 90-100 million arenas first, ignore the community programming needs.

These priorities are wrong.

[FuzzyWuz]

Just found this. Taiwan's solar stadium. 100% powered by the sun.

http://imgur.com/a/duB8w

[teddifax]

There has been talk/rumours that there are corporate sponsors out there that just have to get together and this could easily become a reality, if this is true. I just wish for once we could get something built without overanalyzing it to death and in the end losing out... "If you build it, they will come..." - this is a great line from the movie Field of Dreams, that rings so true. We need a stadium. Those in power, please get together and get'er done!

[ILoveHalifax]

It seems amazing that our great Premier can find hundreds of millions to spend on paper mills, for private industry but could not find 20 million towards a stadium. Paper mills a dying industry and sports infastructure a growing industry.

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by ILoveHalifax

It seems amazing that our great Premier can find hundreds of millions to spend on paper mills, for private industry but could not find 20 million towards a stadium. Paper mills a dying industry and sports infastructure a growing industry.

Not to bring politics into this but that's generally what you get with a provincial NDP government.

[Keith P.]

Maybe the paper mills could sponsor the stadium.

[RyeJay]

Originally Posted by GregHickman

Not to bring politics into this but that's generally what you get with a provincial NDP government.

Generally, you get this with the other parties as well. But hey, it would be bringing 'politics into this' if we spoke of it further...

[c-way-dude]

Originally Posted by fenwick16

This was posted in the "New Blue Bomber Stadium" thread - http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...23544&page=130. One can see why this 33,000 seat stadium will cost $190 million dollars (although I am not sure if that is just the stadium cost or if it includes $45 million for University of Manitoba recreation centre upgrades).

This is a very impressive looking stadium, although a bit too costly for Halifax.

Sadly, I think that even an economical stadium in the HRM is now dead for several more years.

Is it just me, or does the new Winnipeg Stadium look alot like Fenwick's conceptual stadium for Halifax?

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by c-way-dude

Is it just me, or does the new Winnipeg Stadium look alot like Fenwick's conceptual stadium for Halifax?

I did so many (literally dozens). But the basis for most was the InfoCision Stadium in Akron, Ohio (with a roof). I purposely tried to go with what I thought would be an economical stadium. I went to the InfoCision Stadium about a year ago and posted several pictures; I think the InfoCision Stadium would be great for Halifax. The Winnipeg Stadium is impressive but it was not designed to be low cost (it is more of an iconic structure).

I think a two tier, sunken, economical stadium would be a good choice for Halifax. The Halifax stadium architect (who thought a large stadium would be a "white elephant") actually displayed one concept that was more similar to some concepts that I drew. I did a screen capture from the live streaming at the time (below). (I think it was about 14,000 seats between the goal-lines)



Here is a link to a recent photo of the Winnipeg stadium by trebor204 - http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...um_Aug19-1.jpg

[c-way-dude]

The new Winnipeg stadium is bigger with more luxuries than your stadium, but they both seem to have the same basic design.
Both stadiums seem to have a sunken lower deck, and an upper deck that extends to the corners of the endzones. Temporary seating for both stadiums would be erected in the endzones behind the existing seats, with a base at or slightly above ground level.

[c-way-dude]

The Saskatchewan Roughriders have released details of their economic impact.
http://www.riderville.com/article/ri...impact-details

[c-way-dude]

http://www.riderville.com/article/co...or-new-stadium

[Kernowboy]

The Algarve Stadium in Faro which seats 30,000 and is multi purpose is another option



Another option if Halifax wanted another go at hosting a Commonwealth Games could be the Estádio Dr. Magalhães Pessoa, with a running track and built as a horseshoe.

[Jstaleness]

Originally Posted by Kernowboy

Another option if Halifax wanted another go at hosting a Commonwealth Games could be the Estádio Dr. Magalhães Pessoa, with a running track and built as a horseshoe.

I like this one.

[scooby074]

Originally Posted by Jstaleness

I like this one.

So do I.. But Id like to see something with a retractable roof, given maritime weather.. However I wonder if it would add considerably to the budget

[Nilan8888]

Well, I think a retractable roof is shooting a little too high.

Halifax is at such a size now it should be able to support a Stadium. I don't think it should be anything particularly extravagant though: I think you're better off investing money in the quality and appearance of the building than looking for a retractable roof. If the weather is an issue, just make it an indoor stadium.

With such a stadium Halifax could field a CFL Team, but also draw concerts and other major events with greater regularity.

Halifax has a sufficient base population, and the Province has almost a million people within a 3/4 hour drive (I forget how long it takes to get to Cape Breton these days). It just needs the facilities to live up to this potential. If Regina can pull this off with half the population and a much larger area for the extended population to travel, it's clearly do-able in Halifax.