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Old Posted Jan 11, 2013, 8:40 PM
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The New York Times: The 46 Places to Go in 2013

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ces-to-go.html

1) Rio de Janerio

2) Marseille

3) Nicaragua

4) Accra, Ghana

5) Bhutan

6) Amsterdam

7) Houston

8) Rossland, British Columbia

9) New Delhi

10) Istanbul

11) Singapore

12) Montenegro

13) White Salmon River, Wash.

14) Hvar, Croatia

15) Mongolia

16) The Big Island, Hawaii

17) Philippines

18) Vernazza, Italy

19) The Kimberley, Australia

20) Ningxia, China

21) The Adirondacks, N.Y.

22) Oslo, Norway

23) Constantia, South Africa

24) Lithuania

25) Burgos, Spain

26) Lens, France

27) Changbaishan, China

28) Porto, Portugal

29) Puerto Rico

30) Koh Phangan, Thailand

31) Kalpitiya, Sri Lanka

32) Jackson Hole, Wyo.

33) Bangkok

34) The Jeseniky, Czech Republic

35) Waiheke, New Zealand

36) Yucatan, Mexico

37) Charlevoix, Quebec

38) Pecs, Hungary

39) Republic of Congo

40) Ireland

41) Getaria, Spain

42) Mergui Islands, Myanmar

43) The Falkland Islands

44) Washington, D.C.

45) Casablanca, Morocco

46) Paris
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Doing a quick scan, it seems that travel is nothing more than expanding hotels, restaurants openings by the latest hot chefs, and 'eco' lodges. Except for the Falklands. They forgot to mention why you would want to go there in the first place.
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Interesting that Western elites love travel globalization, as well as economic globalization. Now new tourism markets have to be opened up in Nicaragua, Ghana, out of the way parts of Czech, etc. Burn multiple tons of jet fuel and $000s of dollars, but stay at an eco lodge so you feel like you're making a difference, etc.

Better to stay local and work to improve your own nation's cities. Cincinnati and Buffalo could use some tourists...
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Interesting that Western elites love travel globalization, as well as economic globalization. Now new tourism markets have to be opened up in Nicaragua, Ghana, out of the way parts of Czech, etc. Burn multiple tons of jet fuel and $000s of dollars, but stay at an eco lodge so you feel like you're making a difference, etc.

Better to stay local and work to improve your own nation's cities. Cincinnati and Buffalo could use some tourists...
Is it wrong for places like Accra to develop a tourism industry? It creates jobs for the locals, raises the cultural profile of the region and encourages pride and preservation. I don't think that is a bad thing. I'd travel to some of these places in a heartbeat!!
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I'm just saying while those places are all going to be interesting to visit, they are the tourism equivalent of buying a imported produce item that had to travel a zillion miles over rails, ship, plane etc to arrive at the market and my shopping basket, instead of the local North American produce. Is the experience of savoring an exotic fruit worth the miles this fruit has to travel?

I like the idea of striving to be a 'locavore' in more than my produce selection. Traveling to some far-flung locale on a jet should really be a very special and uncommon luxury IMO. Traveling to and checking out, I don't know, over-the-rhine in Cincinnati or some other special place here, which highly deserves greater promotion as a tourism destination, seems more ethical.
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You have a point.

But for me it's moderation. With oil use for example, using very little when I'm at home and flying somewhere occasionally is still using way less.
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Better to stay local and work to improve your own nation's cities. Cincinnati and Buffalo could use some tourists...
"no, honey.... we're going to buffalo. i just feel like it's way more responsible..."

good way to avoid telling her the christmas bonus never came.

very 2013.
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No rainforests in the US and I think spreading economic wealth the least advantaged (even if only via tourist dollars) is better than spending it elsewhere. Sure, there are better ways of helping, but, if you're going to go on a nice vacation, why not go somewhere where your money will produce the most good?
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With the revitalization of places like the south shore in Pittsburgh or OTR in Cincy, the next step could be an expanded tourism industry in these cities.

Part of the lack of pedestrian density in midwestern cities is the lack of tourists. Montreals or S Florida's economy is no great shakes, but the center boasts tons of visitor-supported business. Unfortunately, Americans tend to visit about 5 cities in North America (NY, SF, Montreal, Vegas, Miami).

Thus the marketing focus could be more hipsterish. Who can become the Midwest or East Coast Portland or something.
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"no, honey.... we're going to buffalo. i just feel like it's way more responsible..."
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I'm just saying while those places are all going to be interesting to visit, they are the tourism equivalent of buying a imported produce item that had to travel a zillion miles over rails, ship, plane etc to arrive at the market and my shopping basket, instead of the local North American produce. Is the experience of savoring an exotic fruit worth the miles this fruit has to travel?

I like the idea of striving to be a 'locavore' in more than my produce selection. Traveling to some far-flung locale on a jet should really be a very special and uncommon luxury IMO. Traveling to and checking out, I don't know, over-the-rhine in Cincinnati or some other special place here, which highly deserves greater promotion as a tourism destination, seems more ethical.
So you're comparing Paris to produce?? Umm.....

Keep in mind, this is a New York Times article. It's going to be noticed by a very diverse group of people, some of which have enough disposable income to take a trip to remote places like The Kimberley. And then there are other places like the Adirondacks or Charlevoix that are more to your style.

It also seems like the point was to highlight many places that may not be at the top of the list (save for Paris) but have a lot to offer.
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So you're comparing Paris to produce??
^^ consistency, my friend, consistency
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Money is there to be spent. Progress to be taken advantage of. You go to buffalo, I'll go to Capetown, Japan, Kolkata. I'm cool with it even if it speeds up the demise of the human race by one millionth of a second.

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Old Posted Jan 13, 2013, 6:52 AM
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Save money, everyone and visit Philadelphia. I GUARANTEE that you'll end up liking this city more than your hometown and have a strong desire to move here. Philly's the new New York and LA now and a lot of young people are moving here.
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nah, that's ok - i'll continue traveling overseas. there is nowhere in the u.s.a. that interests me as far as traveling goes. i still kind of enjoy hawaii and aspen, however. but then again - what's the point of hawaii and aspen when i can just go to seychelles, french polynesia and gstaad?
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1) Rio de Janerio - on the maybe list, but it will be a few years

2) Marseille - been there, its sort of cool, I can see why it made the list

3) Nicaragua - went there 6 years ago, could have bought a house for 30 grand

4) Accra, Ghana - not been, on consideration list

5) Bhutan - not been, on the consideration list, expensive, tho

6) Amsterdam - been there, didn't care for it too much, other parts of NL are amazing

7) Houston - been there, would go again for sure, not in summer, tho

8) Rossland, British Columbia - been to the Okanagan, not Rossland, great area

9) New Delhi - been there, done that

10) Istanbul - been there and dying to go back

11) Singapore - was just there 2 weeks ago, so-so, food was excellent, tho

12) Montenegro - this is the most likely place on this list that I will go this year

13) White Salmon River, Wash. - been there many, many times

14) Hvar, Croatia - been there, but I was young

15) Mongolia - never been

16) The Big Island, Hawaii - never been

17) Philippines - on my short list, amazing beaches, if I can get there on miles, maybe next x-mas/new years break

18) Vernazza, Italy - never been

19) The Kimberley, Australia - never been

20) Ningxia, China - never been

21) The Adirondacks, N.Y. - been many times

22) Oslo, Norway - never been, but have an open invitation to visit

23) Constantia, South Africa - never been

24) Lithuania - been to the other 2 Baltics, not Lithuania, great part of the world

25) Burgos, Spain - never been

26) Lens, France - never been

27) Changbaishan, China - never been

28) Porto, Portugal - went last year, great city, lots of character

29) Puerto Rico - never been, another place I have a standing invitation to stay

30) Koh Phangan, Thailand - never been

31) Kalpitiya, Sri Lanka - never been

32) Jackson Hole, Wyo. - been several times, not that fun when you are not making 7 figures

33) Bangkok - been there done that

34) The Jeseniky, Czech Republic - never been

35) Waiheke, New Zealand - never been

36) Yucatan, Mexico - nice area and probably the safest area of Mexico, worth a visit

37) Charlevoix, Quebec - been there, but was really young

38) Pecs, Hungary - never been

39) Republic of Congo -never been and don't want to go, my brother did peace corps in that part of Africa

40) Ireland - been there, fun times

41) Getaria, Spain - never been

42) Mergui Islands, Myanmar - Just went to Myanmar, not the islands, tho

43) The Falkland Islands - no particular desire, its is stupid expensive to go and I can find many, many other places to spend my travel dollar

44) Washington, D.C. - been there many times, even spent some real time there, never cared for it much

45) Casablanca, Morocco - been to Morocco, next time will go to Casablanca, sorry I missed it last time

46) Paris - been there plenty of times, prefer Spain & London, as for making this list, well, duh
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Montenegro, Portugal, Istanbul, Spain's Basque Country, and maybe even Nicaragua, are all on the cards for me this year.
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i find that i'm only able to function in hardcore cities and/or resort towns. going to china or small town italy or india, it's not really very much fun. even istanbul isn't that much fun, not enough babes (i.e. too many men everywhere just standing around of skulking in doorways or whatever), a fairly weak bar scene, a hard to find underground scene (if it exists), etc. no, ny times, i'm sorry, you don't speak for me!
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Montenegro is an amazing place, I was there back in 2011. A friend of mine is from there, so she invited me to visit.
Quick facts:
- very small country, only about 600,000 inhabitants
- they have the Euro
- very friendly and open people
- magnificent beaches with many hidden places
- mountains: go on a tour, you won't regret it
- The Tara Canyon: one of the biggest canyons out there, 1300m deep.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tara_River_Canyon.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dj...ara_bridge.jpg


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...anyon_2006.JPG

I recommend rafting on Tara River!

- don't forget the Ostrog monastery!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ostrog1.jpg

- or the Bay of Kotor...

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i will be in montenegro in a month - going to do a mountain/ski retreat thing near kolasin.

it's a great country. i was in boka kotorska last summer. amazing.
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