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Old Posted Mar 24, 2013, 6:37 PM
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2013, 7:21 PM
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Great pics of Moscow; what is up with the Watchtower stuff?
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2013, 7:29 PM
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I've no idea what youre talking about, that's Moscow in Springtime.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2013, 7:37 PM
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Man, Moscow looks gorgeous when its ocean of commieblocks doesn't get to be too much seen.
You've got to hate plain concrete.
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The Bay Area is home to 52 billionaires and the LA Area is home to 37 billionaires according to Forbes' 2013 list.

Its really inaccurate to report US cities by themselves and not their surrounding suburbs. Bill Gates for example, doesnt count for Seattle according to Forbes and that's just ridiculous.

San Francisco Bay Area: 52
5 Larry Ellison $43 Billion
20 Larry Page $23 Billion
21 Sergey Brin $22.8 Billion
66 Mark Zuckerberg $13.3 Billion
98 Laurene Powell Jobs $10.7 Billion
138 Eric Schmidt $8.2 Billion
211 Charles Johnson $5.7 Billion
215 Rupert Johnson Jr $5.6 Billion
262 David Duffield $4.8 Billion
299 Charles Schwab $4.3 Billion
316 Gordon Moore $4.1 Billion
316 George Roberts $4.1 Billion
346 George Lucas $3.9 Billion
346 John A. Sobrato $3.9 Billion
353 Dustin Moskovitz $3.8 Billion
363 Jeffrey Skoll $3.7 Billion
437 Reid Hoffman $3.1 Billion
458 Riley Bechtel $3 Billion
458 Stephen Bechtel Jr $3 Billion
503 Doris Fisher $2.8 Billion
503 Andreas von Bechtolsheim $2.8 Billion
527 John Doerr $2.7 Billion
554 Marc Benioff $2.6 Billion
641 Ray Dolby $2.3 Billion
670 John Fisher $2.2 Billion
670 Michael Mortiz $2.2 Billion
704 James Coulter $2.1 Billion
736 Gordon Getty $2 Billion
736 Richard Peery $2 Billion
785 Romesh T Wadhwani $1.95 Billion
792 John Arrillaga $1.9 Billion
792 Ken Fisher $1.9 Billion
792 Meg Whitman $1.9 Billion
825 John Pritzker $1.85 Billion
831 Thomas Siebel $1.8 Billion
868 Daniel Pritzker $1.75 Billion
882 David Cheriton $1.7 Billion
882 David Filo $1.7 Billion
922 Kavitark Ram Shriram $1.65 Billion
931 Peter Thiel $1.6 Billion
965 William Fisher $1.55 Billion
974 Scott Cook $1.5 Billion
974 Vinod Khosla $1.5 Billion
974 Jerry Yang $1.5 Billion
1031 Thomas Steyer $1.4 Billion
1107 Mark Stevens $1.3 Billion
1175 Jim Breyer $1.2 Billion
1175 Robert Duggan $1.2 Billion
1268 Carl Berg $1.1 Billion
1268 Jack Dorsey $1.1 Billion
1342 John Morgridge $1 Billion
1342 Alexander Spanos $1 Billion

Los Angeles Area: 37
69 Donald Bren $13 Billion
145 Patrick Soon Shiong $8 Billion
191 Eli Broad $6.3 Billion
198 David Geffen $6 Billion
267 Sumner Redstone $4.7 Billion
276 Jin Sook & Do Won Chang $4.5 Billion
363 Edward Roski Jr $3.7 Billion
384 Steven Udvar-Hazy $3.5 Billion
412 Kirk Kerkorian $3.3 Billion
422 Tamara Gustavson $3.25 Billion
423 Steven Spielberg $3.2 Billion
437 Haim Saban $3.1 Billion
458 Anthony Pritzker $3 Billion
527 Elon Musk $2.7 Billion
554 Jack Dangermond $2.6 Billion
554 David Sun $2.6 Billion
554 John Tu $2.6 Billion
589 A Jerrold Perenchino $2.5 Billion
613 David Murdock $2.4 Billion
641 Bill Gross $2.3 Billion
641 Michael Milken $2.3 Billion
670 Stewart & Lydia Resnick $2.2 Billion
736 George Argyros $2 Billion
736 Nicolas Berggruen $2 Billion
736 Andrew & Peggy Cherng $2 Billion
792 Alec Gores $1.9 Billion
792 Donald Sterling $1.9 Billion
882 Henry Samueli $1.7 Billion
922 Bruce Karsh $1.65 Billion
922 Howard Marks $2.65 Billion
1031 Gary Michelson $1.4 Billion
1031 Henry Nicholas III $1.4 Billion
1175 Bassam Alghanim $1.2 Billion
1250 George Joseph $1.15 Billion
1268 Charles Munger $1.1 Billion
1342 Thomas Barrack $1 Billion
1342 Ryan Kavanaugh $1 Billion
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Chalk me up as surprised by Istanbul, Turkey and it's development really has been a dark horse to us here in the west.
Istanbul doesn't get any attention at all in the US. The situation with the Kurds and Cypress' economic collapse are barely mentioned out here. People are surprised to learn that Turkey is bigger than the UK and France and that Istanbul is such a dynamic city.

Surprising to hear that it'd rank that high, but not that it'd be on this list. Amazing city.
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How many does pittsburgh have?
I am pretty sure there are none.
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Istanbul (Constantinople) is a 2000 year old city; for hundreds of years, it was the largest and most developed city in the western world; in fact arguably it was the heart of the western world after the fall of Rome until around 800 a.d. It was a Greek city and the heart of the Greek world for much of its history, and only recently (1492 a.d.) was conquered by Muslims Turks.

Not sure I would classify is as a "developing" city, it's always been extremely important no matter who (Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Turks) had control of it. If it was less prominent for the past 100 years or so, this was very anomalous.
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Istanbul (Constantinople) is a 2000 year old city; for hundreds of years, it was the largest and most developed city in the western world; in fact arguably it was the heart of the western world after the fall of Rome until around 800 a.d. It was a Greek city and the heart of the Greek world for much of its history, and only recently (1492 a.d.) was conquered by Muslims Turks.

Not sure I would classify is as a "developing" city, it's always been extremely important no matter who (Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Turks) had control of it.
Ok, but these issues aren't why Istanbul is on this list.

Turkey has extreme income inequality and a pretty big economy, so many billionaires, and it's a highly centralized nation, so they're all in Istanbul. It doesn't really speak to Istanbul's greatness but rather Turkey's relative economic stratification and considerable might.

I mean, the fact that Rome has none and Dallas has many doesn't really speak to their relative importance.
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Ok, but these issues aren't why Istanbul is on this list.

Turkey has extreme income inequality and a pretty big economy, so many billionaires, and it's a highly centralized nation, so they're all in Istanbul. It doesn't really speak to Istanbul's greatness but rather Turkey's relative economic stratification and considerable might.
Agreed, I was more reacting to people who seemed surprised that the city could be developed or important; it always has been basically.

It's easy to have lots of billionaires in your city when a couple individuals or families own the entire economy, rather than having share ownership diffused across the equity markets.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2013, 2:00 AM
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Istanbul is currently building the worlds largest airport by 2016 (capacity 160 million) thanks to skyrocketing numbers and more to come, and has jumped into top 5 most internationally visited city in the world, a climb from no 10 only a few years ago (by comparison NYC is at no 13). Also the largest city in Europe and the fastest growing in population, economy and profile. The country in the near future looks to benefit enormously from its geography, straddling the trade links between Europe and Asia, as it's always done, but more so.

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/efik4...-world-2012-5/


As mentioned, the city draws from the rest of the country and to a lesser extent region, it's only real competitor Ankara sorely lacks the history, numbers, culture, leftfield arts and scenes.
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Great pics of Moscow; what is up with the Watchtower stuff?
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