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Old Posted Jul 2, 2013, 4:45 AM
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NoirCityDame, here are two more slides from 1959 that were taken by the same person who took the 'Germain's' slide.


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Those are swell, thanks.
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2013, 4:58 AM
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...and I just found this May 1938 photograph showing the modernized facade of Germain's.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/24247/rec/2
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Great! Also nice to see Germain's elusive, under-photographed neighbor at 617-621. I didn't know what had become of it since Politz & McDowell's sudden, mysterious decision to retire from business and vacate the joint 9-18-1929. Good timing, though.

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Old Posted Jul 2, 2013, 8:42 AM
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More Hershey Arms

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I found a couple more images of the Hershey Arms at 2600 Wilshire. Is that a sign on the tower or part of the architectural ornament?


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below: A rare view of the opulent interior.


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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vint-PC-Hers...-/261026475392

An earlier post by GaylordWilshire also included this photo.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4770
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1906 Sanborn (updated to 1953) @ LAPL:


1907:

Art Institute of Chicago -- http://digital-libraries.saic.edu/cd...d/12071/rec/41

Undated view of the Hershey Arms (roof only, lower left), the Bryson (tall, U-shaped), the Rampart Apartments (behind the Bryson), and Lafayette Park. The Arcady will be built on the empty lot across from the Hershey Arms in 1927:

LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics14/00026750.jpg

July 15, 1957:

Huntington Digital Library -- http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6194/rec/4

Also July 15, 1957:

Huntington Digital Library -- http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6196/rec/1

The Hershey Arms (c. 1902), designed by Austin and Brown, was replaced by the Western and Southern Life Insurance Building (1959; shown here in 1960), designed by Austin, Field and Fry. It was the same Austin in both cases -- John C. Austin (1870-1963).

LAPL -- http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics18/00018901.jpg

More John C. Austin info: https://digital.lib.washington.edu/a...rchitects/107/
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2013, 1:31 PM
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Hershey Arms Hotel

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1906 Sanborn (updated to 1953) @ LAPL:

FW...thanks for reposting these pictures of the old Hershey Arms Hotel. Those were the days when Los Angeles tried to be as elegant as any East coast city and then some.
That Chinoiserie lobby is like a box of noir candy.


Previously posted by ER & FW

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http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...KEFB2APKTA.jpg

I never noticed the numbers on top. What did the 6s stand for?.....Route 66?
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Prevailing "%" interest rate seemed "firm" given the quasi-permanent advertising. (Some posted here before.) Rates subject to change with different noir postings!


Inglewood - circa '32
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...63938123_n.jpg



El Capitan, ca. '26
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...64847104_n.jpg


http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater1/00014553.jpg


1935
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics16/00007601.jpg






1936
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics16/00007614.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics16/00007814.jpg http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics16/00007814.jpg




El Captain related - http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7156


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Thank you!

Funny, kznyc2k, I was there in the morning on that warm Saturday! Just the one little piece of Mignonette Street left. Hard to even tell where Court was. I think it's particularly sad knowing what will soon be there. I would so much prefer ghost staircases and grass lots on Fig & Cesar Chavez to those Orsini buildings. Hell, I'll take that data center over those condos. At least the design is honest and true to its function.

Unfortunately, the roll of film is still in my camera so it'll be a little while before I can fill it up with other noir-ish images and develop it. It just feels right photographing these places with film.

Also, I gotta ask - can everyone hold off for a little while on posting so I can catch up? This ridiculously amazing forum has blown too many minds and needs to slow down, for its own safety, I think. I just congratulated myself for reaching page 200 after months of lurking and going out and finding these places. I have a ton of shots I've taken of places featured here - just need to scan them all and post a few. In the meantime, there is a bit of LA history sprinkled throughout my Flickr page, if the mood strikes you, starting with the (not quite Noir-ish but certainly Cold War-ish) old Rocketdyne testing facility, home of the first commercial nuclear reactor meltdown in the world in 1959: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30811353@N04/

Mission this weekend - kill two birds with one stone by getting good shots of the State Office Building tile floor from the observation deck of City Hall - they doubled the fences on the ground. Used to be, you could just hop the fence and hang out with the skaters. Wonder if I'll be able to talk my way through security with a huge telephoto lens. Nothing suspicious here!
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2013, 5:57 PM
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Welcome to the thread Sony_LA. I look forward to seeing your photographs! To you the thread seems to be moving fast, but in reality
it's been slowing down as of late. We could use an infusion of new members with photos. (spread the word)

p.s. I'd love to see a post about the Rocketdyne mishap.
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Flyingwedge, you really hit the MOTHERLOAD with these color photographs! I had no idea the Hersey Arms was blue.

July 15, 1957 originally posted by Flyingwedge




This Cleveland Co. is the same company that destroyed the Garden of Allah.




from the video I posted last week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvAk5...ature=youtu.be

I'd like to contact some of it's former employees and see if they salvaged any architectural ornament.
(of course many of them would be dead by now)
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ALSO...what's going on with the second dome. Where was this flue in earlier photographs. -disguised within the dome?


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Old Posted Jul 2, 2013, 6:13 PM
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Mission this weekend - kill two birds with one stone by getting good shots of the State Office Building tile floor from the observation deck of City Hall - they doubled the fences on the ground. Used to be, you could just hop the fence and hang out with the skaters. Wonder if I'll be able to talk my way through security with a huge telephoto lens. Nothing suspicious here!
Welcome, Sonny!

I noticed this sign on the fence around the State Office Building site last month:

Photo by me

However, there were no explanatory signs on the fence around the block bounded by 1st, 2nd, Broadway, and Hill, which is a big empty lot. Do you -- or does anyone -- know what's going in there?
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A few people have contacted me about how to post photographs on the thread.
I am absolutely terrible at explaining how to do this...I tend to confuse instead of educate.

Can someone please explain it in layman's terms, or locate a previous 'how-to' post on the Skyscraperpage forum.
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2013, 7:01 PM
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There's more than one way to post photos. I can tell you that I have a Photobucket account where I upload my personal images, then I use the direct link they give and use the following here...

[img] insert url here [/img]

You should not have any spaces in it, however.

Hope that helps.
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2013, 8:20 PM
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My Sunday slideshow lecture on Sunset and Crescent Heights's "mystery building" is now a thing of the past, so I'll go ahead and share some of the discoveries here.


The building, a combination shopping/medical center, was designed in 1931 by Norstrom & Anderson (architects Alvan Edward Norstrom and Milton Lawrence Anderson) for developers C.H. Thomsen and W.L. Easley. It would prove to be the grandest commission of the architects' careers.


The year before, Norstrom & Anderson had also designed a building directly across the street, on Sunset Boulevard's north side ... and for the same developers. Fortunately, that building still exists, and is best known as the home of the Laugh Factory and Greenblatt's Delicatessen:


Huntington Library



The "mystery building" stretched westward along Sunset Boulevard's south side: from Laurel Avenue to the beginning of the southward curve down to Crescent Heights Boulevard. Here's a composite photo showing how it looked in 1932:


Huntington Library / Bruce Torrence Hollywood Photo Collection



Named the Sunset Medical Building, it soon became known as the Crescent Heights Shopping Center. The structure was luxurious: its entire front and side facades were paneled in dark tan Napoleon Grand Melange marble from Southern France, and trimmed in burgundy-colored Rosso Levanto marble from Italy. (At the time, only one other commercial structure in L.A. was so completely covered in marble: downtown's 1915 Merritt Building.) The mansard roof's ceramic tiles were glazed a dark green. All cornice trims, display window fittings and gutters were made of copper. The building's rooms were paneled and floored in mahogany; some rooms had terrazzo marble floors. Doctors' and dentists' offices were on the second level: a covered bridge walkway allowed patients to cross from one wing to another. The building's back court had a 30-space parking lot.


Colorized photo of the roof tiles and marble paneling:





"Built for the Ages"? Alas, no.


LAPL



In 1955, the Belousoff Investment Co., which owned the building by then, decided to remodel --but not demolish-- it in the name of "modernization". Googie-style architects Armet & Davis were hired to do the redesign. The suspended glass box in the middle didn't end up being built.


Courtesy Sheldon Belousoff



The 1956 remodel included the complete removal of all marble panels, the mansard roof, the tower, and the covered bridge walkway. The building's east and west wings were reshaped into two pink stucco boxes. You can really see the changes below:


1931-1955:





1956-1988:





In 1987, when West Hollywood did its own historical survey of the area's notable architecture, the "mystery building" was completely passed over and didn't make it onto any list. Perhaps no one on the survey commission remembered what it had once looked like. The following year, the whole thing was finally demolished ... and today, Schwab's Pharmacy is the only part of it which people know about. But as you can see, I'm trying to change that.

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Old Posted Jul 2, 2013, 9:47 PM
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Posting photos

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A few people have contacted me about how to post photographs on the thread.
I am absolutely terrible at explaining how to do this...I tend to confuse instead of educate.

Can someone please explain it in layman's terms, or locate a previous 'how-to' post on the Skyscraperpage forum.
-thanks
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Go to this link. It may give some help on how to post photos. You first need to have an account on Photobucket.com...its free and you can post your photos on that site and then link them to Norish. The link is my post on how to post photos from that photo hosting site. Hope this helps. Its really very easy.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15103

Also here is a youtube video tutorial on how to post photos, there are many other YT tutorials to help.:

http://youtu.be/6UxjW7Aq_eU

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Googie's, the beginning ('49?)
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townn...review-620.jpg


'49
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5107/5...09270d92_b.jpg


http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/files/20...ner_googie.jpg


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5008/5...24a9df8f_z.jpg


'55 - Googie's

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/742...rPksRHWA%3d%3d



Pippy's. The name may have been more memorable than the pizza. Dpn't know when Googies became Pippy's - but Pippy's was there in '78!




Benson Fong also had a memorable Ah Fong restaurant in Beverly Hills.
http://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/wo...AL00286_10.jpg

'49 - Cathy O'Donnell hits Schwab's Soda Fountain assured of complete anonymity.
http://01.wir.skyrock.net/wir/v1/res...lXy6.jpg&w=600

Circa '80
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics50/00059859.jpg



December '83 (Per Source)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics42/00040693.jpg



Goodbye Schwab's 1988. (Sure looks like Maytag repairman Jesse White.)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics42/00040692.jpg


3827 Wilshire - Hi Hat (Marx Bros. Day at the Races - connection?)
http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...shire-1930.png

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Yes, Googies was built in 1949. After the '50s, it became the "Steak N' Stein" and then eventually "Pippy's".


A small Spanish colonial-style house, probably from the later 1920s, used to be on a triangular patch of land in the middle of where Sunset curves down to Crescent Heights. In the early '30s, it was a fortune-teller/astrologer's home and office. By the '40s, the gay-friendly "Casanova Club" had moved into it. Somewhere in the '50s, it became a Beatnik coffeehouse named "Pandora", which evolved into a live music venue called "Pandora's Box." What then happened to that little house in 1966 made history.


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Ranch Market - Vine St. Hollywood, 1950s.


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Goodbye Schwab's 1988. (Sure looks like Maytag repairman Jesse White.)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics42/00040692.jpg

Fun trivia about that photo: the storage shed wall says "Junk For Joy" because the final tenant of the old Schwab's space (after Schwab's closed in 1983) was a vintage clothing/costume store named --you guessed it-- Junk For Joy. After the building was demolished, Junk For Joy moved to Magnolia Avenue in Burbank, where it still does excellent business: http://www.junkforjoy.com/

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People who were around half a year ago will remember I made a bit of a discovery as I was surfing around Google Maps and noticed that there were remnants of the houses that used to exist on Fremont Ave and directly adjacent to the legendary Court Circle.




What the heck are these ^ v things? ^Cast iron sewer pipe.

vPart of an electrical transformer/electric bell.




What on earth is this? An old broom handle.






Answers are above. These were really interesting.

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5070 Hollywood Blvd? (Hollywood and Normandy)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070900.jpg[/QUOTE]

I meant to thank you for posting the picture of Tom's house (way back on page 726). That must be the photographer's address; this house of Tom's was at 5841 Carlton Way in Hollywood.

LA City Directory 1926.

My great grandfather, William H. Fulton (a local builder/realtor) lived across the street from the Mixes at 5810. My grandfather (born in Hollywood, 1927) always said Tom was a great guy - he would come out and lasso the kids, and let them look at his silver-trimmed saddles that he had on display in the living room.

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Tom Mix's first Hollywood home.

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[I]5070 Hollywood Blvd? (Hollywood and Normandy)

I suspect this is Tom's first home....before he moved to West Hollywood and built the large Carlton Way house? Tom's first movies were mostly made relative to the Edendale Studio which was located in the Echo Park area which is the eastern part of the Hollywood area. It would make sense for him to live in that area. The eastern part of Hollywood Blvd. was a residential area. Maybe we need some more corroboration.


Here is another Tom Mix home on Summit Dr. He was married at least 5 times, so its no surprise he had many houses. Each wife would want their own home.

Spouse(s)
Grace I. Allin (1902–1903)
Kitty Jewel Perinne (1905–1906)
Olive Stokes (1907–1917)
Victoria Forde (1918–1931)
Mabel Hubbell Ward (1932–1940)



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http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070900.jpg
I meant to thank you for posting the picture of Tom's house (way back on page 726). That must be the photographer's address; this house of Tom's was at 5841 Carlton Way in Hollywood.

LA City Directory 1926.

My great grandfather, William H. Fulton (a local builder/realtor) lived across the street from the Mixes at 5810. My grandfather (born in Hollywood, 1927) always said Tom was a great guy - he would come out and lasso the kids, and let them look at his silver-trimmed saddles that he had on display in the living room.

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"5070 Hollywood Blvd." was suspect for several reasons, not the least of which being the numbering on the house that looks like it could be "41" as in "5841 Carlton Way." A follow-up post raised that issue and even another possibility, i.e., 1614 Golden Gate Avenue, Silverlake. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14518 Your version makes the most sense; however, by the late '20s and '30s, Tom evidently tied his spurs to many hitching posts - from Laurel Canyon to Beverly Hills. Maybe you can fill in some pieces to the puzzle, for example, how long Tom resided at Carlton Way, or when he moved. A photo or two of Tom in the neighborhood would also be a treasure.

A quick search of the directories has Tom listed as Fox Photoplayer in '23, on Carlton Way in '26, but by '27 and '29 he is unlisted. Tom's daughter Ruth (also in the picture business) seems to be listed with an address on 1400 Block of N. Crescent Heights Blvd., '27: http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...search_doc=mix '29: http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...search_doc=mix


Ruth Mix
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-joeEys7X9I...air%2B1939.jpg



Ruth and (Gene Autry?)
http://i18.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/c2/5a/4b72_1.JPG
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