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Old Posted Jul 28, 2013, 3:00 PM
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In movies and photos from the late 30s through the early 50s I've often seen coupes generally being driven by young single urban professional type characters. Most of those cars look to me like they were designed solely as two-seaters to begin with; they don't look like there was ever room for any back seat. They look like sedans that have been chopped and put back together as shorter versions of themselves.

As for doctors driving these cars, that doesn't quite ring true in spite of what your friend says. I don't know if doctors still go around with those little black bags, but when they did they usually contained some controlled narcotics for emergency purposes, among other things. Because of that they didn't generally want to leave them in plain view, which would presumably be the case with the platform behind the seats.

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The red oval indicates what appears to be a Chrysler Corp 3-window coupe that was marketed as both a
low-line business coupe and in more luxurious editions.


Not being a doctor as well as being too young to have much actual experience with business coupes, I would have no way of knowing what doctors were thinking vis-a-vis their little black bags or preferences as to interior arrangements when selecting a car. Presumably the doctor, on arriving at a house call, would have have the presence of mind to remove his little black bag from plain view and taken it with him to the patient, to whom the the bag would have been more useful than it would be if it were still back in the car; similarly, when the doctor arrived at the scene of an emergency, he would have taken the bag with him to where the victim lay and where the controlled narcotics that may or may not have been in the bag might have been helpful.

I have found no statistics as to how many, if any, physicians purchased automobiles marketed as "business coupes"; perhaps as you suggest none ever did, they being mindful of the theft risk. I do know that, as my use of the qualifier "generally" was meant to indicate, that some automobiles marketed as business coupes were three- or five-window bodies fitted with a single bench seat with a small space behind, while some makes offered what was identical to their club coupe or two-door sedan but with the rear seat deleted and a flat floor installed in its place.

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The rear floor of a 1950 Ford business coupe, showing the flooring installed in place of the rear
seat of the standard club coupe that used the identical body.


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Yes, that's Ginger Rogers and a 1937 Plymouth.
...make that a '36
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2013, 5:45 PM
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My second car, a 1949 Dodge Wayfarer roadster, the ragtop version of the Wayfarer business coupe. Mine was lightly customized, nosed and decked with the side logo off. Still have one side logo on my garage wall.

True roadster, side curtains instead of rollup windows, manual top, no door locks. As with the coupe, the trunk extended forward to the door line. You could get an old push lawnmower in that thing. Terrible driving machine, steered like a tank and the fluid drive was "put in gear, drop clutch, and wait. And wait."

Photo from Barrett-Jackson, grayscaled for that noir look.

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Old Posted Jul 28, 2013, 8:54 PM
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Do you mostly work cases in the downtown area?

And I have to ask, though you probably get this all the time, do you like Dragnet? Somewhere in this thread I'm sure I've already recommended the old radio program to everyone here, because many of the episodes have interesting details about the downtown area. (And, of course, a few are set mostly in outlying areas when the roads and housing tracts were a lot less developed. For instance there's one that mostly takes place on the side of the Imperial Highway, back when it really was a country highway (at "the road to San Pedro").

The episodes are readily available on line, for example at the Prelinger Archive.
Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency! are on ME-TV Monday thru Friday.

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Thanks, Krell58 for that link. I enjoyed it and it led me to another which contains Many of the pictures we have been enjoying on this Noir site. Perhaps it was one of our members who put it together. Please enjoy this as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ3Xzb5iXQw
That's a good one, many of the photos seem new to me.

The Ginger Rogers photo reminds me of Lucille Ball waiting for the Three Stooges.
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2013, 9:51 PM
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One of my favorite things to do, is to look through this great thread
while listing to my jazz records.


Photo by me.
That sounds like a great way to enjoy noirish Los Angeles Steven.
Even incidental music adds a flavorful layer to our vintage views of L.A.
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2013, 9:57 PM
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Gladys Towle Root
was a flamboyant noir attorney in Los Angeles for over 30 years. After college she could't find a job at an established law firm so in 1930 she opened her own office at 212 South Hill St. There she specialized in murder, child molestation and lewd conduct 'sex' crime cases. Her specialty was 'gay' vice arrest cases such men holding hands in a bar [illegal then] and undercover sex stings in Los Angeles restrooms and parks. In those days before the law was changed, the LA Police Vice Squad would pick the cutest cops, dress them in T-shirts, tight pants and stake-out restrooms and bars... just in case two males might be fooling around therein.

Gladys Root
This is very interesting CityBoyDoug. I didn't know who she was until your post.
(is that some sort of weird bird with a turned up bill in her hat?)
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2013, 10:18 PM
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Los Angeles.

ebay






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Old Posted Jul 28, 2013, 10:31 PM
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Hotel Padre, 1963 N. Cahuenga. "Room with Bath for a Dollar and a Half."

then and now

ebay


GSV

This building has seen some tender loving care recently (new windows, fresh paints etc.). I love the store fronts....very tasteful.
Does anyone know it's history?




reverse of postcard

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Old Posted Jul 28, 2013, 11:24 PM
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This is similar to a view BifRayRock posted last week. (I like the green hue in this one)

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Old Posted Jul 28, 2013, 11:40 PM
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for sale on ebay as we speak. -negatives & proof sheet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/-1968-LOS-AN...-/290952991917

Bunker Hill & Angels Flight December 1968.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-1968-LOS-AN...-/290952991917
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Nothing says 'noirish' more than a 1930s/40s auto court.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-B-W-...item3f27942b7d

I hope we can figure out the address of this 30 cabin auto court. -with showers
p.s. (I just found this image tonight)
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This is, by far the scariest photograph of the Echo Mountain Incline Railway that I've seen. (1890s)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Photograph...item2ec9567550
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Nothing says 'noirish' more than a 1930s/40s auto court.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-B-W-...item3f27942b7d

I hope we can figure out the address of this 30 cabin auto court. -with showers
p.s. (I just found this image tonight)
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Found this postcard, with an address (4562 No. Figueroa), on Flickr...http://www.flickr.com/photos/zilf/128565399/lightbox/

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Found this postcard, with an address (4562 No. Figueroa), on Flickr...http://www.flickr.com/photos/zilf/128565399/lightbox/

In comparing current Google map street view with the postcard pics, I'd say the Alexandria Auto Court building is still standing at 4562 N. Figueroa:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=4562+...2PCwKVqr6ceP3A
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Nothing says 'noirish' more than a 1930s/40s auto court.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-B-W-...item3f27942b7d

I hope we can figure out the address of this 30 cabin auto court. -with showers
p.s. (I just found this image tonight)
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Anti-ostentatious. Built to last. Each unit equipped with a well-manicured plant. (Management announces it is accepting bids for pea gravel within next 10 years.)

2500 San Fernando Rd. No date.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...YL7USJ8U5H.jpg
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Westminster Hotel in all its glory. The caption on this photo reads ca. 1900 but judging by the women's fashions, it looks more like between 1908-1910.

USC Archive

Here's the Westminster Hotel on the northeast corner of 4th and Main, around 1888-1898.

USC Archive

That same intersection some decades later in 1924, with the Westminster looking great surrounded by those other buildings from an obviously different later era but complementing each other nicely IMO. What a hustling and bustling part of downtown that was! Within a decade or so from when this picture was taken, this area would become a seedy rundown part of downtown.

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The Westminster Hotel being demolished, 1960. Another piece of LA Victoriana bites the dust.


For years after the Westminster Hotel was demolished, it was a vacant lot/parking lot. However in the last few years, a structure was being built on the northeast corner of 4th and Main. It's nearly finished, a development called the Medallion. Here are some pics of it which I've ganked from another thread on these forums, courtesy of colemonkee, another SSP poster. These pics were taken March 28, 2010, according to him.





While it's nice that something has been built here, it uh, still isn't the old Westminster Hotel.


The replacement building does not compare with its predecessor.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...UPKGQBB86Q.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...JSP9TAPDAC.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...U8EC718NIF.jpg

1954 - South Main Street - 300 Block
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...4GEHQF191J.jpg


"Frankly my dear, I don't give a dime."

1954 - South Main Street - 300 Block (per source: opposite of or contiguous?)
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...A52AGER5AP.jpg
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Before the Richfield Building when parking spaces were plentiful.


Charles Koppel's 1840 depiction the Spanish settlement in the area of downtown L. A. known today as El Pueblo. (Allegedly the first published drawing - http://www.brown.edu/Facilities/Univ...ames/leap.html )


http://www.thehiddentreasure.org/fil...angeles_lg.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...73VHHCE8VX.jpg
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1915 - Mrs. Hart's Apartment House. Wonderful adobe look. Straight from Santa Fe or Albuquerque? Well insulated. (Somewhere in or near Pasadena.)
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...TUCAYUF3BF.jpg





1920 - The "American" Apartment House. (Also in or near Pasadena.)

Hitching post? Backstop for Street Hockey? Mature trees were given "boxed" treatment.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...SM5JA9LIGE.jpg
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I just solved my own mystery.

The building in question was the Ebell Club when it was located on Figueroa.


usc digital archive



The first Ebell Club was located on Broadway (this photo is from 1905). For some reason I love this rather odd looking building.


usc digital archive


I don't remember seeing either of these photos in the USC archive before.

But where was the "Women's Club" or "Women's Club House" ? (If only Mayor Shaw or Gladys Root were around to tell the true story.)

1901
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NTHPD72VCU.jpg
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2013, 5:19 PM
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This is, by far the scariest photograph of the Echo Mountain Incline Railway that I've seen. (1890s)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Photograph...item2ec9567550
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1898 Mt Lowe from Altadena (Does not look that steep from here!)
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...R2N5M6651E.jpg



1893 - Less challenging terrain. Nice view.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...ED1TIIK543.jpg
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